Why do Conservatives feel the need to lie about British and Canadian healthcare?

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Why do Conservatives feel the need to lie about British and Canadian healthcare? - mikal_1978 - 11-09-2012 05:48 PM

Wait times? No more than in the U.S.
Treatment of difficult diseases and injuries? Same as the U.S. In fact, Professor Stephen Hawking (you know, the guy who is smarter than pretty much everybody else on the planet) has said several times that the British NHS saved his life.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/13/stephen-hawking-nhs-twitter-welovethenhs
Unsatisfied Canadians? Find a real one.

Stop making stuff up.

- brown9500.v8 - 11-09-2012 05:57 PM

The GOP has to lie about EVERYTHING...Lies are all they got.

- Felonius Monkey - 11-09-2012 05:57 PM

They don't believe it's a lie.

I was the first person in my family born in the US, the rest are Canadian. I've spent years in Canada and in the US so I'm in a good position to compare the two healthcare systems.

First off, the Canadian system has its problems - I admit that. But the problems facing the US system are far greater. In the end it comes down to cost. You can argue all you want about abstract ideals of small government, meanwhile people die because they can't receive treatment.

- kinger2314 - 11-09-2012 05:57 PM

Thank you. It's about time someone spoke the truth in this country.

- faintrose722 - 11-09-2012 05:57 PM

You honestly think the guardian tells the truth?

- Bamford1000 - 11-09-2012 05:57 PM

I think this is the most sensible analysis I have read when it comes to the US Health Care debate.

http://www.politics.co.uk/analysis/health/comment-i-ll-never-understand-americans-$1318652.htm

@pdooma

At which hospital were you treated.

I am from England, and have always received good levels of treatment on the NHS.

The NHS has a lot of very dedicated staff and some very good hospitals, especially the major teaching hospitals.

As for waiting times, there are minimum targets, such as the new 2 week target for seeing a Cancer Specialist.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8122798.stm

The NHS has also gone through a period of rapid modernisation in recent years, with many hospitals rebuilt or extensively refurbished.

A few NHS Trusts

http://www.oxfordradcliffe.nhs.uk/aboutus/hospitals/hospitals.aspx

http://www.newcastle-hospitals.org.uk/hospitals/transforming_transforming-the-freeman-hospital.aspx

http://www.royalmarsden.nhs.uk/RMH/privatecare/privatecare/worldleadingexpertise.htm

http://www.icr.ac.uk/

http://www.christie.nhs.uk/new_developments/default.aspx

http://www.beatson.gla.ac.uk/

http://www.copperconcept.org/referenceshow.asp?rid=1283&langid=9

http://www.building.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=3082149

http://www.cuh.org.uk/addenbrookes/addenbrookes_index.html

http://www.papworthhospital.nhs.uk/content.php?/about/new_papworth_hospital

http://www.cambridge-biomedical.co.uk/

http://www.rnoh.nhs.uk/

http://www.stmarkshospital.org.uk/

http://www.uhb.nhs.uk/NewHospital/index.html

http://www.ctc.nhs.uk/

http://www.noc.nhs.uk/default.aspx

http://www.royalfree.org.uk/default.aspx?top_nav_id=3&sel_left_nav=40&tab_id=121

http://www.porthosp.nhs.uk/building-works.html

http://www.bartsandthelondon.nhs.uk/aboutus/

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/royal_london_hospital2.jpg

http://www.kch.nhs.uk/services/liver/

http://www.imperial.nhs.uk/index.htm

http://www.uclh.nhs.uk/

http://www.buckinghamshirehospitals.nhs.uk/nsic-history.htm

http://www.airambulanceassociation.co.uk/

- carter_lansford - 11-09-2012 05:57 PM

I really wish the Canucks would be more vocal regarding the falsehoods that have been spread about their healthcare system here in the U.S.

- Prince of Madness - 11-09-2012 05:57 PM

http://www.gallup.com/poll/8056/Healthcare-System-Ratings-US-Great-Britain-Canada.aspx

There are a lot of real ones in that poll. Or.. is this hyperbole?

- Mike T - 11-09-2012 05:57 PM

Then go enjoy...

You don't see Americans flocking to UK or Canada for health care, do you? In fact, the opposite is true. Get a clue.

- pdooma - 11-09-2012 05:57 PM

Having experienced the UK's system first hand, I can tell you the hospital was dirty, the equipment was old, the wait time was long, the people waiting with me were dissatisfied. By the time I finally got in to see a doctor, he looked at me, told me the equipment they needed to diagnose what was wrong was broken, then he shook my hand, wished me luck and told me to have a nice day.

So, that's my personal story with the UK health system.