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Will the liberals who accuse me of not knowing what socialism is please furnish a definition of it? - Poke_the_Bear - 11-19-2012 02:35 AM
Thanks. I would hate to be misunderstood. My definition of socialism comes from the Merriam-Webster dictionary. Where does yours come from?
- Logic - 11-19-2012 02:43 AM
You really think a short dictionary definition is enough to understand a complex economic system?
Really?
- Cliche Buster - 11-19-2012 02:43 AM
You might want to ask what they comprehend it as in addition--spitting out the definition just means they know the definition. Because they are quick to tell you that you don't know--but give you a definition and swear it isn't happening.
- JOHNNY PETE - 11-19-2012 02:43 AM
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- JOHNNY PETE - 11-19-2012 02:43 AM
Socialism refers to any one of various economic theories of economic organization advocating state or cooperative ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and a society characterized by equal opportunities/means for all individuals with a more egalitarian method of compensation based on the full product of the laborer. Modern socialism originated in the late 19th-century intellectual and working class political movement that criticized the effects of industrialization and private ownership on society. Karl Marx posited that socialism would be achieved via class struggle and a proletarian revolution, and would be a transitional stage between capitalism and communism (a state involving the disappearance of class and therefore the state).
The utopian socialists, including Robert Owen, tried to found socialist factories and other structures within a capitalist society. Henri de Saint Simon, the first individual to coin the term socialism, was the original thinker who advocated technocracy and industrial planning. The first socialists predicted a world improved by harnessing technology and combining it with better social organization, and many contemporary socialists share this belief. Early socialist thinkers tended to favor an authentic meritocracy combined with rational social planning, while many modern socialists have a more egalitarian approach.
Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital, creates an unequal society, and does not provide equal opportunities for everyone in society. Therefore socialists advocate the creation of a society in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly based on the amount of work expended in production, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how and to what extent this could be achieved.
Socialism is not a concrete philosophy of fixed doctrine and program; its branches advocate a degree of social interventionism and economic rationalization, sometimes opposing each other. Another dividing feature of the socialist movement is the split between reformists and the revolutionaries on how a socialist economy should be established. Some socialists advocate complete nationalization of the means of production, distribution, and exchange; others advocate state control of capital within the framework of a market economy. Socialists inspired by the Soviet model of economic development have advocated the creation of centrally planned economies directed by a state that owns all the means of production. Others, including Yugoslavian, Hungarian, German and Chinese Communists in the 1970s and 1980s, instituted various forms of market socialism, combining co-operative and state ownership models with the free market exchange and free price system (but not free prices for the means of production).
Social democrats propose selective nationalization of key national industries in mixed economies, with private ownership of property and of profit-making business. Social democrats also promote tax-funded welfare programs and regulation of markets. Many social democrats, particularly in European welfare states, refer to themselves as "socialists", introducing a degree of ambiguity to the understanding of what the term means.
Libertarian socialism (including social anarchism and libertarian Marxism) rejects state control and ownership of the economy altogether and advocates direct collective ownership of the means of production via co-operative workers' councils and workplace democracy.
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- Peter - 11-19-2012 02:43 AM
That's what MSNBC told them to say.
Socialism, according to Webster's.
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
- Chris W - 11-19-2012 02:43 AM
I am sure you can look it up in a dictionary, you just have trouble comprehending what the definition means.
- Bob - 11-19-2012 02:43 AM
Then you apparently don't understand it if you think anything being done in this country is socialism.
- Wally - 11-19-2012 02:43 AM
so⋅cial⋅ism  /ˈsoʊʃəˌlɪzəm/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [soh-shuh-liz-uhm] Show IPA
–noun 1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.
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And Some Think The Redistribution Of Wealth In This Country Isn't Socialism (They Haven't Read The Definition And Don't Have A Clue)
- Astro K? - 11-19-2012 02:43 AM
lol, stop saying socialism, it's too a broad term, you should be more specific.