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I am looking for a way to believe in God? - Philovitist - 01-27-2013 04:38 PM

Hi, I hope you can help me.

I'm a social liberal, much more sure of the legitimacy of my values than I ever will be about theistic matters, and very concerned with having justified true beliefs about the world around me. These two facts alone have kept me from regaining the faith in God I lost back in elementary school.

But I like Christianity, and its become increasingly clear to me that the inane fundamentalism that I've been raised with isn't the only approach to God in the market. I would like to think that there are more intellectually respectable approaches out there, and because of a few changes in my approach to life recently, I've become quite a bit more comfortable with the uncertainty that religious life entails. Many agnostic atheists abound, but agnostic theism seems just as good and promises much more to me in life than the other uncertain alternative.

What I need, though, is a theology that makes sense and is internally consistent, one that I can comfortably follow even as I approach God with a sense of suspicion and doubt. One that doesn't contradict anything I know to be true, including the moral basis of my values. I need a theism that I can be proud of asserting.

If you could provide sufficient guidance about this issue, or point me to a good book, I'd be very grateful.
I swear Yahoo needs a "let me respond to this bs button" -_-
Meh. I was really looking for a liberal theologian or something to come around and show me what's what. Meh.


- jupiter FIVE - 01-27-2013 04:46 PM

Easy. Schedule a lobotomy.


- jupiter FIVE - 01-27-2013 04:46 PM

Shrooms, son.


- Q J - 01-27-2013 04:46 PM

This book here will help you find the truth from the bible:

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teach/is-this-what-god-purposed/

For a more detailed answer to this question and many others , please go to https://www.jw.org/en/free-bible-study/


- oldandtired - 01-27-2013 04:46 PM

Perhaps viewing the Bible from a common sense perspective might help.

Taking control of another person’s life, freedom, or property is a perversion of the laws of nature, yet this is the profession of both criminals and authorities. An otherwise criminal act is called authority when it is approved and protected by laws created by those who want to force their will on others without receiving the repercussions they would receive without the laws they created. This is the fountain from which all corruption flows because a law cannot be created without a freedom being destroyed. Sadly, the men who create law have been misled by the clergy. Law is playing god with the opinions of good and evil, the “forbidden” knowledge that got Adam and Eve kicked out of Eden, or, as the clergy describes it, “was the downfall of man.” Common sense tells us that sin, sinners, crime, criminals, and evil are simply opinions defined by mans exercising the forbidden knowledge. Want to argue? At Genesis 1:31 God said everything He created was “very good.”

We have all been betrayed by the clergy, especially those who want to play god and take control of God’s children.


- NONAME - 01-27-2013 04:46 PM

Hi Smile
It's nice to know that you are searching for the right path.
Try reading the Holy Books of several religions and see what suits you best Big Grin
Good Luck x


- ManofEcstasy - 01-27-2013 04:46 PM

Pick a card, any card!:

)You cannot prove that God does not exist, so He does.(Burden of Proof Fallacy)
2)Science can not currently explain everything, so god did it (Argument from incredulity fallacy)
3)God exists, because the bible is the word of God/bible quotes (Circular Reasoning Fallacy)
4)Many people believe god exists so he does (Appeal to belief Fallacy)
5)The bible makes me feel good, so it is true (Appeal to Consequences of a belief Fallacy)
6)I had a personal encounter with god/angel/demon, so it is true (Anecdotal Evidence- Hindus and Muslims do as well)
7) I prayed to God and I was cured (Post hoc ergo raptor fallacy)
8) Ontological Argument (Fallacy of Misplaced Concreteness)
9) *ignores argument *You don’t believe in God because you’re dumb, atheist! (Personal Attacks Fallacy)
10)This is all just lies and slander as expected from an atheist (Genetic Fallacy)


- Mortal Seeker - 01-27-2013 04:46 PM

Here are some books that can help you approach this issue:

Is God a Delusion? by Eric Reitan
Why Does the World Exist? by Jim Holt
Living the Questions by David Felten and Jeff Procter-Murphy
Between Faith and Doubt by John Hick

Definitely look into Process Theology:

http://processandfaith.org/about/what-process-theology
http://www.ctr4process.org/about/process/GodUniverse.shtml


- Yahswatchman - 01-27-2013 04:46 PM

You can either follow God or follow the pagan christians, make up your mind. The two are in no way related. Read the book and check it out for yourself.


- starofiniquity - 01-27-2013 04:46 PM

I've actually come across a similar point in life, and I hit sort of a loophole. I come from a racially Jewish background, so I've become more immersed in a reformed Jewish culture. That said, there are many atheist, reformed Jews that still sing songs about God, that still participate in old religious traditions, but they are part of the synagogue to keep their culture alive, and to benefit from a tight-knit community.

The same fundamental rule applies to Christianity in my opinion. Talk to many heads of many churches, and look for one who embraces science, accepts obvious truths like the theory of evolution, sexuality equality, etc. and discuss your situation with them. When you find a pastor, or whatever s/he may be that is willing to accept you into their community knowing that you may have "lost your way" so to speak, then you'll gain the benefits of a religious community with an open mind without having to feel that your feigning anything at all.