Why do both libertarians & conservatives accept the liberal reasons for social welfare?

[Calyx]

The system is too easily abused. I witness it everyday. i don't think it should be completely abolished but for god sakes people living in two story houses with multiple cars should not be able to get welfare because they found some loopholes (I have a family member who did this)

I help the poor any time I can, and when I say poor I mean the HOMELESS. the people so poor they don't even have a roof over their head. Ironically some of them have a better outlook on life than all these whiny brats who call themselves poor because they can't afford an iphone.