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Mann vs. Curry, Round 1?
03-05-2014, 11:30 PM
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Here are the links to the first two:

http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.c...2a7d074d06

http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.c...4165860275

It looks like all Curry is doing is ignoring the science and restating exactly what the self proclaimed skeptics in here do. No warming since 1998, ocean rising at the same rate as previously, increasing Antarctic ice extent, and so on. She claims that the IPCC does not have a convincing explanation for the current 'hiatus' yet current science shows that the decrease in warming is a result of the negative or neutral PDO. you think what she is therefor claiming is scientific and up-to-date?

Dealing with climate sensitivity all she is doing is complaining that the lower bounds have been decreased slightly thereby making the case for anthropogenic global warming... 'weaker'? I don't really see how one leads into the other.

Dealing with sea level rise what she is doing is trying to obscure the argument. Sea level is increasing because the planet is warming. To determine where that rise is coming from we need to look at the cause of the warming. What she is claiming is that the sea level rise in the earlier part of the 20th century, when solar was actually increasing, is equal to the sea level rise of the late 20th century and therefor humans have no impact on it. What she is doing is coming to a conclusion based on personal belief and leaving out an entire middle explanation.

With sea ice she is ignoring ice mass as is usual with people that attempt to obfuscate the argument. This has been spoken about quite a lot in here recently. She is also making the claim that sea ice will continue increasing until the year 1940 and cites a recent paper though she has no link on the provided response but it is labelled with a 7. That section was probably in a separate file.

Overall? I would say that Curry is continuing to play with the data and not telling the full story. Would you label this anti-science? It would be similar to someone explaining the reasons why evolution is a hoax because of Piltdown man.
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Mann vs. Curry, Round 1? - Ottawa Mike - 03-05-2014, 10:43 PM
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