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The actual goal of the climatism is to liquidate democracy, freedom, and prosperity in the world?
03-27-2014, 03:51 AM
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This is obviously a slanted question, and is attracting people with a particular view of the issue.

The answer is no (in general).

1. Saving energy is the same as saving money. Fuel efficiency of cars has been increasing as gas prices have gone up, not because people want to save the environment, but because they want to save money at the pump. And cars haven't really become more expensive because of it either, not compared to other options like automatic transmission, leather seats, sun roofs, integrated sound systems...

2. We've mandated much higher efficiency levels for refrigerators, furnaces, house insulation, etc. This was all started decades ago, before "climatism" (a made-up word). It was to save our resources (coal oil, etc.) for the future and to spend less government money in building more power plants.

3. If it was really to make "piles of money" as some have said, shouldn't capitalists be all over this and saying it's a good thing? Instead, most money will stay in company bank accounts, as they spend less over the long term on energy costs.

4. The stock market abhors unknown change. They don't like it when they can't predict something. A changing climate threatens that in a big way. If we lose wheat production in Texas because of drought, or New York has to spend billions in flood protection, and then Miami gets hit by a storm surge from a hurricane (hurricanes always happen, but a rising sea makes for a larger storm surge), this is all going to drive the market down. Humans will adapt, nature will adapt over the centuries, but in the short term our economy stands to take a massive hit if climate change starts happening quickly. We're just trying to protect our economy and our way of life for our children and grandchildren.

We definitely need to include China and other developing countries in this process. China is a massive polluter and they need to clean up their own cities just so their citizens can breathe safely. It wasn't so much of a factor back when we first started talks on what kind of action to take in the 90's.
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