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Is Obamacare going to address vision and dental, which now are separate policies from your health insurance?
12-12-2012, 06:30 PM
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I do not think at this point there are specific plans for vision or dental. I have looked through the bill several times but never saw them mentioned, however, these are medical procedures for vision and dental and maybe they will be covered?? Maybe glasses would not be but cataract surgery might? I don't know.

I am praying this never passes. If enough people would contact the blue dog Dems and beg them not to vote for it maybe it won't. Here is a link to the list of Blue Dogs - http://www.house.gov/melancon/BlueDogs/M...0Page.html

EDIT: the link provided by Kiran C is a 2 pg pdf doc with no mention of the word DENTAL in it that I could find by searching the pdf doc.

If you want to see a critique of the Nat'l Health Care system bill read on.



If you want to check (I did) on any of the following here is the link to the full text:

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3200/text

I hope everyone will at least look through this commentary ~ it points out things we should all be concerned about - clearly. This is very scary so you may want to skip it.

Inside the Health Care Bill, aka HR3200
July 22, 2009 at 3:02 pm

Here is the entire 1017 page Health Care Bill... and commentary...

There is a man by the name of Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) who is reading
it and has been posting on Twitter his findings. This is from his postings
(Note: All comments are Fleckman's)

Pg 16: SEC. 102, lines 3-26, PROTECTING THE CHOICE TO KEEP CURRENT COVERAGE:
Outlaws private insurance by forbidding enrollment after HR 3022 is passed
into law.

Pg 21-22: SEC. 113. INSURANCE RATING RULES of the HC Bill MANDATES the
Government will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!

Pg 29, SEC. 122, ESSENTIAL BENEFITS PACKAGE DEFINED: On lines 4-16... Your
health care is rationed!

Pg 30, SEC. 123, HEALTH BENEFITS ADVISORY COMMITTEE: There will be a
government committee that decides what treatments/benefits you get.

Pg 42, SEC. 142, DUTIES AND AUTHORITY OF COMMISSIONER: The Health Choices
Commissioner will choose your health care benefits for you. You have no
choice!

PG 50-51, SEC. 152, PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION IN HEALTH CARE: Health care
will be provided to ALL NON-US citizens, here legally or otherwise.

Pg 58, SEC. 163, ADMINISTRATIVE SIMPLIFICATION: Government will have
real-time access to individual's finances and a National ID Health Card will
be issued!

Pg 59, SEC. 163, Lines 21-24, ADMINISTRATIVE SIMPLIFICATION: Government will
have direct access to your BANK ACCOUNTS for electronic funds transfer. This
means the government can go in and take your money right out of your bank
account.
Oh My God!

PG 65, SEC. 164, REINSURANCE PROGRAM FOR RETIREES: A subsidized plan for
Union retirees and their families, and to community organizations (think
ACORN).

Pg 72, SEC. 201, Lines 8-14, ESTABLISHMENT OF HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE;
OUTLINE OF DUTIES; DEFINITIONS: Creates an "Exchange" to bring private
health care plans under Government control.

PG 84. SEC. 203, BENEFITS PACKAGE LEVELS: Government mandates ALL benefit
packages for private health care plans in the Exchange.

PG 85, SEC. 203. BENEFITS PACKAGE LEVELS Line 7 HC Bill - SPECIFICATION OF
BENEFIT LEVELS FOR PLANS = The Government will ration your Healthcare!

PG 91: SEC. 204, Lines 4-7, CONTRACTS FOR THE OFFERING OF
EXCHANGE-PARTICIPATING HEALTH BENEFITS PLANS: Government mandates linguistic
appropriate services. (Example - Translation for illegal aliens!)

Pg 95, SEC. 205, Lines 8-18, OUTREACH AND ENROLLMENT OF EXCHANGE-ELIGIBLE
INDIVIDUALS AND EMPLOYERS IN EXCHANGE-PARTICIPATING HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN:
The Government will use groups (i.e., ACORN and Americorps) to sign up
individuals for Government plan.

PG 102, SEC. 205, Lines 12-18, OUTREACH AND ENROLLMENT OF EXCHANGE-ELIGIBLE
INDIVIDUALS AND EMPLOYERS IN EXCHANGE-PARTICIPATING HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN:
Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No
choice!

PG 124, SEC. 223, lines 24-25, PAYMENT RATES FOR ITEMS AND SERVICES: No
company can sue the GOVERNMENT on price fixing. No "judicial review"
against Government Monopoly!

PG 127, SEC. 225, Lines 1-16, PROVIDER PARTICIPATION, DOCTORS / AMA: The
Government will dictate the income of doctors and other health care
professionals.

PG 145, SEC. 312, Line 15-17: EMPLOYER RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS
EMPLOYEE AND DEPENDENT COVERAGE: An Employer MUST auto enroll employees
into public option plan. NO CHOICE!

PG 146, SEC. 312, Lines 22-25, EMPLOYER RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS
EMPLOYEE AND DEPENDENT COVERAGE: Employers MUST pay health care coverage
for PART-TIME employees AND their families.

PG 149, SEC. 313, Lines 16-24, EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTIONS IN LIEU OF COVERAGE:
ANY Employer with payroll of $400,000 and above, who does not provide public
option, will pay an 8 percent tax on all payroll.

PG 150, SEC. 313, Lines 9-13, EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTIONS IN LIEU OF COVERAGE: A
business having a payroll between $251K - $400K, who does not provide the
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