Is there any proof or evidence that homosexuality is morally wrong?

[JoeP222]

Yes. God tells us it is an abomination in His inerrant word of the Bible.

[Lover of Blue]

I'd suggest looking at the results of such behaviors -

"Homosexual activists attempt to portray their lifestyle as normal and healthy, and insist that homosexual relationships are the equivalent in every way to their heterosexual counterparts. Hollywood and the media relentlessly propagate the image of the fit, healthy, and well-adjusted homosexual. The reality is quite opposite to this caricature which was recently conceded by the homosexual newspaper New York Blade News:

"Reports at a national conference about sexually transmitted diseases indicate that gay men are in the highest risk group for several of the most serious diseases. . . . Scientists believe that the increased number of sexually tranmitted diseases (STD) cases is the result of an increase in risky sexual practices by a growing number of gay men who believe HIV is no longer a life-threatening illness.

"Instability and promiscuity typically characterize homosexual relationships. These two factors increase the incidence of serious and incurable stds. In addition, some homosexual behaviors put practitioners at higher risk for a variety of ailments, as cataloged by the following research data..."

Risky Sexual Behavior on the Rise Among Homosexuals.

Homosexual Promiscuity - "Studies indicate that the average male homosexual has hundreds of sex partners in his lifetime..."

Promiscuity among Homosexual Couples. - "Even in those homosexual relationships in which the partners consider themselves to be in a committed relationship, the meaning of "committed" typically means something radically different from marriage."

Unhealthy Aspects of "Monogamous" Homosexual Relationships. - "Even those homosexual relationships that are loosely termed "monogamous" do not necessarily result in healthier behavior...

Such "loose" lifestyle choices often lead to the following -

Human Papillomavirus (HPV) - HPV is "almost universal" among homosexuals. According to the homosexual newspaper The Washington Blade: "A San Francisco study of Gay and bisexual men revealed that HPV infection was almost universal among HIV-positive men, and that 60 percent of HIV-negative men carried HPV."

And homosexuals deal with alarmingly higher rates of the following problems - Hepatitis, Gonorrhea, Syphilis,Gay Bowel Syndrome, HIV/AIDS, and Anal Cancer.

Higher Cancer Risk Factors for Lesbians -

"Some experts believe Lesbians might be more likely than women in general to develop breast or cervical cancer because a disproportionate number of them fall into high-risk categories."

Compulsive Behavior among Lesbians -

"A study published in Nursing Research found that lesbians are three times more likely to abuse alcohol and to suffer from other compulsive behaviors..."

Violence in Lesbian and Homosexual Relationships -

"A study in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence examined conflict and violence in lesbian relationships. The researchers found that 90 percent of the lesbians surveyed had been recipients of one or more acts of verbal aggression from their intimate partners during the year prior to this study, with 31 percent reporting one or more incidents of physical abuse.

"In a survey of 1,099 lesbians, the Journal of Social Service Research found that "slightly more than half of the [lesbians] reported that they had been abused by a female lover/partner. The most frequently indicated forms of abuse were verbal/emotional/psychological abuse and combined physical-psychological abuse."

High Incidence of Mental Health Problems among Homosexuals and Lesbians -

"A national survey of lesbians published in the Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology found that 75 percent of the nearly 2,000 respondents had pursued psychological counseling of some kind, many for treatment of long-term depression or sadness..."

Greater Risk for Suicide - "...homosexuals with same-sex partners were at greater risk for overall mental health problems, and were 6.5 times more likely than their twins to have attempted suicide. The higher rate was not attributable to mental health or substance abuse disorders."

Reduced Life Span - "A study published in the International Journal of Epidemiology on the mortality rates of homosexuals concluded that they have a significantly reduced life expectancy..."

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=Is01B1

See also -

http://homosexualityandscience.wordpress...n-society/

We may not like these results of such a lifestyle but facts are facts and if we ignore them because we don't like them, we hurt ourselves and our communities and our children.

[John S]

As is often the case, I think to truly answer this question, one must take a step back and FIRST discuss the concept of Absolute Morality vs. Subjective Morality.

Because IF one side of the discussion believes in subjective morality, then it will be nearly impossible for the other side of the argument (who we presume believes in absolute morality) to show anything that is convincing, because in the end, ANY evidence that homosexuality is illmoral would undoubtedly rest on the idea that there is such a thing as an absolute morality.

But then the issue of absolute morality raises the issue of WHO sets the rules? Absolute morality doesn't work unless you have some higher power to set the rules.

Secondly.. you then need to have a serious discussion about the purpose and design of human sexuality and the reason that sex exists. -- This issue will again, most likely start to delve into this idea of absolute morality and a higher power.
IS sex merely a pleasurable activity that humans are free to engage in with whomever and however they want? OR, is human sexuality ordered towards some ultimate and higher purpose?
This is typically where people invoke 'natural law' -- which often times gets confused with "laws of nature" -- 2 totally different things.

So the issue gets complicated and to be discussed in depth, one needs to step back and define a few other terms ahead of time.

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As a Catholic.. I don't have 'proof positive' of very many things in life. But because Catholicism believes in absolute morality set by God and a philosophical concept called "natural law" - both of which put limits on what man 'ought to do' - I would say that I believe that homosexual sex acts are contrary to the intrinsic design of sex and God's intention for how we are to express our sexuality.

But to explain all that indepth, would take a long time.

[Tinman]

Maybe before you are damned Someone will say 'And how hard did you look ?"

SOCRATES: And here, Callicles, I would have you consider how you would reply if consequences are pressed upon you, especially if in the last resort you are asked, whether the life of a homosexual is not terrible, foul, miserable? Or would you venture to say, that they too are happy, if they only get enough of what they want?

CALLICLES: Are you not ashamed, Socrates, of introducing such topics into the argument?

SOCRATES: Well, my fine friend, but am I the introducer of these topics, or he who says without any qualification that all who feel pleasure in whatever manner are happy, and who admits of no distinction between good and bad pleasures? And I would still ask, whether you say that pleasure and good are the same, or whether there is some pleasure which is not a good?

CALLICLES: Well, then, for the sake of consistency, I will say that they are the same.

SOCRATES: You are breaking the original agreement, Callicles, and will no longer be a satisfactory companion in the search after truth, if you say what is contrary to your real opinion.

CALLICLES: Why, that is what you are doing too, Socrates.

SOCRATES: Then we are both doing wrong. Still, my dear friend, I would ask you to consider whether pleasure, from whatever source derived, is the good; for, if this be true, then the disagreeable consequences which have been darkly intimated must follow, and many others.

1) From History...Homosexuality precedes and hastens the decay of a society

Family and Civilization
by Carle C. Zimmerman

This is documented in the great historians Toynbee and Gibbon among others
http://www.christianpost.com/Opinion/Col...

[Old Man Dirt]

Homosexuality is sociologically wrong! Such a society can not exist by itself with out help from other sources. So it is a drain of resources for any society that encourages it. A birth rate of about 2.3 per couple is mandated for a society to maintain a given population. There is now way a strictly homosexual relationship can provide the 2.3 births per couple to sustain a given society.
So because the over all impact is negative, it is immoral.

[Mysterious MUSE]

None whatsoever. Jesus/Yeshua had a bisexual relationship with men and women and discovered in my research of Gnostic texts.

[strpenta]

Nope...there's none. Those who try to argue it is usually take verses from the Bible that have been 'interpreted' out of context. But even then, it says nothing about the morality of it. The OT books are OK with slavery and murder though so it can't be held as a book of morality.

[Fred XX00 I]

God don't like it at all; he said if you are homo you don't get in heaven no homo in heaven. there.

[publius]

Kantian ethics, then.

One cannot logically will that everyone be homosexual, because that would destroy the species. Why the double standard, then? Why is is right for some, but not for all? Homosexual behavior is unethical.

[Victor]

This is odd be because as a whole the world is in agreement that we are overpopulated 2.3 is the maximum amount of kids a family can have to sustain in the world's underproduction of resource and food, people trying to argue the other way have it backwards as anything over 2.3 kids is a financial drain on society. However military wise it can make an impact on needed resrves, fortunately homosexuals are a minority not a majority. Plus most wars are fought by technology now.

The disease argument used to prove homosexuality as immoral should then not concern heteros as it does not hurt the hetero population at large if they truely believe those figures.

I looked up the statistics and I kind of call bogus on them as the statistics are not comparative to at risk bisexuals and heterosexuals who practice the same activities and do a number crunch.

To get correct statistics you would need comparative statistics to at risk polysexual practioners and that would give you the correct base