What is it with these climate pause deniers?

[kano]

I mean 97% of climate scientists admit to a pause, why wont these deniers
http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0SO8wo3t...didnt.html
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/17/ca...l-warming/
Jeff M. where in the system is this heat. hiding in the oceans where?, your energy budget is nonsense even NASA admits their instruments are not 100% accurate and they have different readings from different satellites

[592]

Source your claim, Kano. If I were to say that 97% of geologist admit that The Philippines originated from the southwest coast of Chile would not want to see the source of that claim?

[C]

Link to that??????

Ian...Ian Once again you ar off the mark here is a link Rio posted to another question http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/q/...arming.PDF

Notice the first sentence about the SURFACE temp pause. That is the only thing that ppaused

[alph]

back up your claim with an actual paper or link. The 'pause' is for surface temperature, not the total energy budget. Maybe you care to explain the 4th or 8th or whatever warmer global temperature last year. So much for your pause.

Just because it's winter in the USA does not mean global warming is over, yet this seasonal pause is seen as proof.

the long term is still going up

[Ottawa Mike]

The pause causes cognitive dissonance so it must be ignored by those who are all-in on climate change.

A great example (of cognitive dissonance) occurred today in a tweet by Dana1981. He stated that Sacramento beat its hottest day in January and followed with the hashtag #YearWithoutWinter. Ouch, things must be going badly in Nuccitelli land.

[graphicconception]

I think it is self-preservation.

If you admit to a pause then someone might ask you to explain it. Consensus science does not have a definitive answer yet so they could give the wrong one. This might be held against them later.

Plan B is to deny it. That way, because it is not happening, they don't have to explain it. It has worked since 2002 (or halfway through 1996 for RSS).

http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/fro...96.5/trend
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp...01.3/trend
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/uah/fro...2002/trend
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut...00.8/trend
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/crutem4...01.5/trend

Or a 25 year pause in the Central England Temperatures:
http://c3headlines.typepad.com/.a/6a0105...c3c970c-pi

You are right, it does prompt the question: Who are the real deniers?

EDIT: Alph - Yes, global average surface temperature anomaly is what we are talking about. So we are all agreed then - it has paused. If you want to talk energy instead then we need the energy data since the Industrial Revolution to compare.

How long term were you thinking, 10,000 years? http://tinyurl.com/qcrukoy

EDIT @Jeff M: I think my point is fair. If we have a temperature-based explanation for every year since the Industrial Revolution, then if you move the goalposts to say that energy is really the important parameter then we should re-examine the history to see if energy explained the observations.

This subject area does have a history of ignoring the past. Think of the ozone hole. When it was discovered it was declared bad. Had there always been a hole? No-one knew - but it was bad now. What about "natural variation". First it could be ignored then it caused cooling. What did it do before? No-one had thought to look. If you discover a new effect or parameter should you not apply it to the past and see how that changes the data and confirm that the models and hypotheses still agree?

[Ian]

I think what happened is that quite a few of the alarmists started with the
"There is NO pause, you stupid denier."

Of course some other alarmists couldn't deny reality any longer and started saying
"Sure there is a pause. But it's caused by natural variability, which can never account for warming mind you, you stupid denier."

Now the ones who were saying that there was no pause originally are now saying "Oh shit.... uh okay... dammit... uhhh... there is no pause.... but... fuck... we know the pause is... crap.. caused by natural variability, which can never account for warming mind you, you stupid denier. Oh shit, that didn't even make sense to me and I'll buy anything Michael Mann tells me. Did I just say that aloud? Fuck!!!!"

[Climate Realist]

The first link is about ocean heat content, but the flat line since 2001 could be explained more by the yellow ball in the sky, than by anything.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp...1365/trend

From the second link

"The absence of global warming for the past 17 years has been well documented."

That is absolute garbage.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp...2013/trend

And Madd Maxx uses the results of only one dataset, RSS, and he uses 1998 as a start date. 17 years form 1998 won't be until the end of 2015. 1998 + 17 = 2015. And he calls realists liars.

I can't deny it. Of course I reported it. And I am sick of Madd Maxx' answers not being deleted.

[stardust]

Climate change deniers are being bribed to say the climate is cooler. The truth is it is getting warmer.

[MAXX]

Not only do some Climate Cultists deny there is a 'pause' --- some go so far as to say it's still warming. When they do that, I like to just link the data and show everyone what big liars they are. http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/fro...8/to/trend

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