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Why did the Pope condemn Reagan for trickle down? I thought Jesus said not to judge others..?
03-24-2014, 04:16 PM
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Why did the Pope condemn Reagan for trickle down? I thought Jesus said not to judge others..?
Why has the Pope joined forces with the malignant left wingers of the world to condemn capitalism?
Claudia, delusional much..?

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03-24-2014, 04:19 PM
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Judging and criticizing are two different things..
.. He's a simple priest who has to be educated in economics, that's all.

* No, just educated.

judgement (noun)
1. (Christian Religious Writings / Theology) the estimate by God of the ultimate worthiness or unworthiness of the individual (the Particular Judgement) or of all mankind (the General Judgement or Last Judgement)

criticize (verb)
1. To find fault with: criticized the decision as unrealistic.

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03-24-2014, 04:27 PM
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Reagan's theory of trickle-down economics was designed for one reason:

To help the United States out-compete Russia in the global market.

It worked. The Soviet Union collapsed. The very people manipulating their market, however, came over here to "invest" in our weakened government, and now the fed is OWNED by big business. Sort of like the USSR, but the other way around. Same end result though; they'll BE the government.

The fed is in extreme debt, and the big businesses owned by men like Bloomberg, Koches, Googlebros, Zuckerberg, Oracle, and Microsoft are running your life. OBVIOUSLY.
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03-24-2014, 04:31 PM
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The Pope knows nothing, and neither do any religious people. Religion is fake, and science has basically disproven everything it has said.
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03-24-2014, 04:38 PM
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He didn't.
A TRANSLATOR applied that term to what he said.
Here's what YOU are literally 100% certain you cannot do: Cite any complaint the Pope made that is actually about something caused by capitalism and not something caused by government balking capitalism?
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03-24-2014, 04:47 PM
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Because he wanted to.
And he is not a phony conservative delusional Canadian.
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03-24-2014, 04:57 PM
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jesus also says to "judge rightly, not by the appearance"
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03-24-2014, 05:03 PM
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1- The Pope did not condemn individuals; he criticized ideas.
2- The Catholic Church is notoriously favorable to charitable initiatives, whether public or private.
3- There is a difference between criticizing doctrines like "tickle down economics" and condemning capitalism.

A note regarding the doctrine of trickle down economics.
A very superficial and quick look at data is enough to understand that the incomes derived from the production process are distributed in very different ways, even year to year. There is nothing in the data or in the theory which compels high-end gains to imply low-end gains... It's a neat political argument, a feat of rhetoric that might prove useful to drive certain points home in campaigns, but there's nothing like that in textbooks. Going beyond the actual subject, the question of income distribution is the very probably most overlooked, least well covered topic in introduction-level textbooks and courses...

Capitalism has to do with organizing production around a wage-earning labor trade (i.e., some people lend their time, effort and skills in exchange for a wage someone else pays). It has nothing to do with the presence or absence of governmental intervention.
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03-24-2014, 05:10 PM
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The Pope did not condemn Reagan. Pope Francis made a comment about an economic theory that he said doesn't work. Many agree with him. Reagan didn't invent trickle down economics, it is an economic theory.
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03-24-2014, 05:13 PM
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Why do you bear false witness?

The Pope did not mention Reagan and did I not condemn anyone.

He simply stated the fact the trickle down economics did not work.

Do you remember in Dickens' "The Christmas Carol" when Ebenezer Scrooge was being asked for a donation to the poor?

"Are there no prisons?" asked Scrooge.

"Plenty of prisons," said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.

"And the Union workhouses?" demanded Scrooge. "Are they still in operation?"

"They are. Still," returned the gentleman, "I wish I could say they were not."

"The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?" said Scrooge. ...

"Many can't go there; and many would rather die."

"If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.

Pure Capitalism is survival of the economic fittest. The economic unfit have no place in a pure Capitalistic economy. This philosophy goes entirely against the Christian ethic of human dignity and love of neighbor.

The Catholic Church has rejected the totalitarian and atheistic ideologies associated in modern times with "communism" or "socialism."

She has likewise refused to accept, in the practice of "capitalism," individualism and the absolute primacy of the law of the marketplace over human labor.

Regulating the economy solely by centralized planning (Communism) perverts the basis of social bonds; regulating it solely by the law of the marketplace (Capitalism) fails social justice, for "there are many human needs which cannot be satisfied by the market."

Reasonable regulation of the marketplace and economic initiatives, in keeping with a just hierarchy of values and a view to the common good, is to be commended.

A theory that makes profit the exclusive norm and ultimate end of economic activity is morally unacceptable. The disordered desire for money cannot but produce perverse effects. It is one of the causes of the many conflicts which disturb the social order.

A system that "subordinates the basic rights of individuals and of groups to the collective organization of production" is contrary to human dignity. Every practice that reduces persons to nothing more than a means of profit enslaves man, leads to idolizing money, and contributes to the spread of atheism.

"You cannot serve God and mammon."

For more information, see Catechism of the Catholic Church, sections 2419 and following.

With love in Christ
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