Christians; what do you think is the cause behind the inverse correlation between intelligence and religiosity?

[Sour B!tch]

Assuming you don't dispute this.
@Who Needs Paradise: Yes, that's true, which explains why approximately 50% of jews are cultural jews who follow the customs but do not believe in god.
@Who Needs Paradise: Many intelligent people believe in god, but there is an inverse correlation, which means that intelligent people are less likely to believe in god, and this gets more pronounced the more intelligent they get.

So, for example the jewish people; you'll find that the 50% who are only culturally jewish would be skewed towards the higher I.Q. population of the jewish people.
@Marie: How much more explaining do you need? What don't you understand? Have you studied statistics at all? Do you understand demographics? The questions you're asking me would not make sense from someone who does.
@Feivel: You're essentially saying the same thing Lil' Marie said, which is "I know of smart people that are theists and therefore you're wrong". It's still ignoring the demographic trend that the studies demonstrate which is far more valid than the handful of individuals you point to.

I will also point out that it's disrespectful to make a personal attack on an individual posting a general question. The study in no way demonstrates my personal intelligence and I have no desire for validation from strangers, and to impugn my intelligence based on falsely attributed straw man motivations is dishonest and unbecoming.

[Who Needs Paradise]

Jewish people are very intelligent. What about Jewish people who do believe in God? PLEASE ANSWER. some Jewish people are agnostic not atheist. I met Jewish people who believe in God and they are very intelligent. Explain?

[johnh]

it should actually be spirituality.

True intelligence operates silently. Stillness is where creativity and solutions to problems are found.
Tolle

[Jude]

Hi. I'm a Christian. Atheism is not a true religion. It is founded on empiricism and this is the sole handicap. No one can thoroughly investigate the facts empirically. To investigate it, they have to be competent professionals in every field.

For example, he just consumes the medicines prescribed by a doctor. Why doesn't he go to the lab and check the contents and the procedure to manufacture it? This is a lagging in empiricism.

Likewise, an atheist has faith in a psychiatrist too. He just can’t randomly believe that the diagnosis of the absence of spirits is right in a person. He simply can’t understand what a psychiatrist writes in the diagnosis, it is very technical. So, the atheist requires simple words to understand and hence, is not able to understand the underlying problem correctly. He just believes the psychiatrist.

Similarly, he just can’t verify the inputs of a forensic expert and a law enforcer on subjects such as crimes associated with Satanism and the spirits. The evidence is really not available to an ‘investigating’ atheist. The evidence can be tampered with or not written and recorded.

And more so, atheists who are not doctors, have not seen the insides of a human. Not every person has been to a cadaver lab.

No single person in history is a professional in all the fields. The best I know is Leonardo Da Vinci. So, empiricism fails and with it, atheism too.

[Feivel]

Many Jews are deists, they do not follow Torah but they do believe in G-d.

Nearly 25% of Nobel Prize winners are halachically Jewish and of that, about 80% believe in G-d but to be fair, most would consider themselves deists. I have a book that quotes that somewhere and I will search for the source.

My father, as a matter of fact, has a Ph.D is physics and works as a physicist although he is also a Rabbi. He is a member of Mensa as well and Triple 9. He is a polymath, a polyglot and we are Orthodox Jewish. There is also an Association of Orthodox Jewish Scientists.

You are obviously an atheist and I realize it is the mantra of the atheist to beat the "I am so much smarter than theists or deists" but the truth is, the most recent study that seemed to say this was a meta study and the researcher himself said it was negligible. It does not mean there is or is not an inverse correlation because each study they looked at was conducted different so "those without religion are more intelligent" may mean that those with IQ's are engaged in other pursuits and less likely to commit to something. It may also mean that some things a person finds in religion (as a sense of self esteem, a sense of community, purpose etc) are found in other activities. In addition, when "religious" was measured, it meant the person had to engage in religious activities. Some people believe in G-d and never step inside a Synagogue, church, mosque, temple etc. Surely you understand that "religious" is a somewhat subjective term as these studies took place in the western world (mostly in the USA and Canada).

Atheists have banded that meta study about for a while now and it is an interesting study but I can only assume if a study is done and atheists look bad in an outcome of it, they will write it off totally as without merit but because this one did not do that, they embraced it and drew their own conclusions. The media (often liberal and non-religious) also ran with the study because they thought they could somehow say "Look, republicans are stupid". If I showed you the study done by the Swiss military that showed atheists more likely to do drugs than theists or deists, would you accept that or write that off....or not care because you are not wrapped up in that as you are in "atheists are too smart to believe in G-d".

If your sense of self is so wrapped up in your being the smartest or the most clever, then you actually live a pretty sad existence.

EDIT

Your desire to impugn Marie attests to immaturity and narcissism. She brought up a fact that Jews usually test rather high on IQ tests and in fact, her point is valid. Judaism is a religion. It is not an ethnic group. It is not a race. Given some of the criterion for the studies, a person who lights Chanukah candles and sits for Passover seder with his family, would not be considered Jewish because he does not believe in G-d YET a Jew who has no outward signs of Judaism may have a quiet faith and yet he too would be classified as an atheist in some of the studies. How did they measure something like agnosticism in these studies. Some agnostics lean towards a deity and others don't. Some xians may be very believing in jesus but have never been to church. They would also not meet the criteria of "a religious person". Would some studies have placed the non-believing Jew in a the religious category because he said he was Jewish? There are way to many variables in these studies. Surely if you have studied demographics, social research and statistics, as you are so willingly to imply, you could understand that so your contumely display towards her was unwarranted.

You might want to check out the Zuckerman analysis of the intelligence/religion studies that were published last summer.....unless of course you don't want to read "As always, the word “correlation” is important. It hasn’t been shown that higher intelligence causes someone to be less religious. So, it would not be right to call someone a dimwit just because of their religious beliefs. Unless, of course, you are an ancient playwright looking to provoke your audience"---Personality and Social Psychology Review, 2013

EDIT
No, I am saying that the study I point to is one that looked at all of the studies that were done. I never said "I know smart Jewish people so you are wrong". I cited a meta study that indicated such. What I am saying is that per Zuckerman, there is really not a demographic trend as the issues with the studies cannot lead one to say this. I don't know how to make this any more clear to YOU. Your claim that I am disrespectful to you, when you attacked Marie for merely answering, is a bit hypocritical. In addition, your question was worded in such a way as to indicate you believe theists are less intelligent than atheists. I pointed out the problems with MANY of the studies.

A strawman? Yes, that old standby.

I simply pointed out a study you might want to read and you can say this study has no bearing on your personal intelligence but you obviously are intrigued enough to ask, in such a way to set it up that atheists are morons.

If I was a betting man, the fact that you addressed this to xians and the studies did not single out any specific religion, I would guess you were raised xian and rebelled. That is why you asked the question to them, as opposed to "theists".

At any rate, this has taken up far too much of my time (which is actually not all that valuable to begin but still....) and you are free to get the last word. I am sure it will make you feel better about yourself and your "argument".

[Erraticbaseball607]

God uses the weak the tell others about the Lord. did i spel week right? i'm a prophitt.