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Welfare: Realistic, wishful thinking, or cover-up – which are you?
04-05-2014, 12:37 PM
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Welfare: Realistic, wishful thinking, or cover-up – which are you?
The big three for welfare programs include Cash (TANF, SSI, GA), Medicaid, and Food Stamps (SNAP).
We should also include without discussion WIC, School lunch/breakfast/after school programs, energy assistance, housing assistance (HUD, Sec 8, more), Head Start, subsidized child care, and a few others.

Social security and Medicare are gray. For the most part recipients worked for the benefits, but many did not.
Medicare at age 65, even if you never worked a day (SSI and others), not everyone.
Social security if your spouse worked and retired, or a parent worked and became disabled or dead.
SSI, sometimes confused with SS is Federal Welfare, comes from the general fund, not contributions from anyone except IRS taxpayers.
VA less so, mostly for veterans, but sometimes family members receive benefits.
We should be able to say that in the least, the great majority of these dollars are not welfare, even if some is. Some people pay in a long time, never collect a penny. It is that way with insurance, even when it is mandatory and you have no choice.
Unemployment Compensation is insurance, all pay in, some receive payment, some do not, employers pay part. Not welfare in ANY scholarly meaning.
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Below I have listed some statements of fact.
Not opinion about motivation, goodness or badness, no value judgments, just simple – able to be documented – facts.
I have provided documentation for all of them in one or more of my posts. If anyone wants to seriously doubt any particular point, I will respond, in this post or another. I will then expect an apology for saying I provided bogus information. Might not get it, but I will expect it.
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Most welfare recipients are chronic, lifetimes and generational. Most of the money spent is for the chronic, even though they a small part of the welfare population, they have made welfare a lifestyle, and consume the vast majority of the funds. Not all, but most recipients, and most of eh funds.
Only 10% of all TANF (cash assistance) have an employable household member, so participate in a work program. Half of all TANF cases have no adult member on the grant. The adult in charge of the children is not a parent, or are federally disabled, so not on the grant, no work component. Many parents claim to be disabled, so are on the grant, not expected to work.
Time limits only apply to the work ready, not 90% of the cases.
The birth of half of all babies born in the U.S. are paid for by Medicaid – welfare.
There are no resource limits for the pregnant women’s medical card- any state.

24 states have no resource limit for Family Medicaid. Programs for the elderly or disabled may have limits, but not for adults with children, even if elderly (have custody of the grandkids).
In 46 states there have been no work requirements for food stamps. Some are coming back this month.
Anyone can quit a job, for virtually any reason, get more food stamps.
Over half of all states have no resource limit for food stamps. It was 36, but a few have brought them back, after stories of people with hundreds of thousands of dollars in the bank (not just retirement accounts) getting food stamps – legally.
Half of the states give Medicaid to healthy adults who have never worked or had any income.
41% of all food stamp households have zero Net income, more allowable deductions than income.
Many living expenses are not allowable deductions like –all car expenses, store purchases, loans, internet, cable, more.
EBT cards are good in any state, no matter where issued.
Medicaid is potentially good in any state no matter where issued, although the provider may choose to not accept it, the issuing state has to be willing to pay the bill if proper billing is completed.
Medicaid is accepted in most (nearly all) hospitals, and the majority of medical providers.
21% of all persons are on Medicaid, so it is a huge market. Many doctors will refuse it, many will take it.

The only program requiring pursuit of child support payments is TANF, and some child care subsidizes.
In some states Medicaid requires pursuing health insurance from the absent parent, but not cash money.

If you are healthy as a horse, never worked a day, turn 65 with no income or resources, you can get SSI. $721 a month, free Medicaid, food stamps, subsidized housing if you wait, energy assistance.
All because you lived to be 65 years of age.

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Families with adults and children are able to live for years, decades, with no income, all basic necessities paid for by welfare - taxpayers. No work requirements, no attempts to get child support.

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04-05-2014, 12:47 PM
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the idea is to create a society that needs their govt and is not self reliant and therefore will be non-resistant to the agenda of the elite that are creating a better world for themselves only ..

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04-05-2014, 12:51 PM
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Government assistance should go back to its original purpose - get people back on their feet, not provide a lifetime income.
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04-05-2014, 01:02 PM
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Well said, Welfare Worker. Thank you.
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04-05-2014, 01:15 PM
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I'm glad you categorized Social Security Old Age Benefits as "gray". Re-evaluation of these benefits is way overdue for long-term stay-at-home spouses (who do not contribute to the program, and the working spouses don't contribute extra). Each person's Social Security Old Age Benefits should be based solely on his or her own contribution record. Change could and should be phased in. I should go into more detail about the current policy, but have taken up enough space. However, cannot resist entering that, according to the (US) Department Of Labor, 73% of US women who have children between the ages of eight and 16 are employed. Their Social Security contributions, along with the contributions of other workers, are financing what are really welfare payments for housespouses who chose to be unemployed for 40-45 years.
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