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Saigon and Rhymefest Comments about Cheif Keef Situation?
10-15-2012, 08:53 PM
Post: #1
Saigon and Rhymefest Comments about Cheif Keef Situation?
Rhymefest:

"Chief Keef is a "Bomb", he represents the senseless savagery that white people see when the news speaks of Chicago violence. A Bomb has no responsibility or blame, it does what it was created to do; DESTROY! Notice, no one is talking about the real culprits, the Bomb maker or the pilot who is deploying this deadly force (Labels, Radio Stations). Its easier to blame the bomb. Bombs are not chosen for their individual talents, they are tools used for collateral damage. To think of the persona of Chief Keef as a person would be the first mistake, he will more then likely come and go without us knowing much of anything about his personal pains, struggles, great loves and ambitions beyond rap. He is a spokesman for the Prison Industrial Complex. Every corporation is expected to grow at least 4% each quarter, many prisons are privately owned with stock being traded on the open market. If these corporations were to do commercials, jingles and promotions who would they hire? You got it, most of the main stream rappers we salivate over like Rick Ross the former correctional officer turned Drug Lord Boss rapper. Waka Flocka Flame gang bang "GO HARD IN THE PAINT" and Chief Keef the newest lottery pick in the "Get paid to destroy young minds, like we destroyed yours" Sweepstakes."

Saigon went on Twitter and agreed with further logic on it...

I have a opinion....but what do you guys think of these comments?
Somehow....i'm not surprised that nobody is answering this question....
"A Bomb has no responsibility or blame, it does what it was created to do"


My problem here is that it ignores the fact that Bombs are still created...and if the label is signing the bomb...then who is creating it? I think the mentality of the artist needs to change in order to prevent themselves from becoming a bomb...a Label can only work with what you give them....you give them a bomb...they will take it and run with it....
@Graph: "but that's risking their money. Even with that a lot of people would jump at the chance to be the next bomb."

And there it is....is the little house n*gro gonna risk his chance at eating bacon for breakfast with Massa???? Or you gonna take a stand with the possibilities of struggling everyday...

@40's and Hip Hop: I agree...but it only speaks to the casual listeners. People that don't really follow hip hop outside of a few artist...unfortunately...thats the majority of their sales...Casual listeners generally don't care enough to consider the thought that their may be better hip hop. The easiest example i have is the average woman...She'll know who Nas or Jay-Z is....but couldn't name 3 album titles...So as a label its much easier to cater to people like this because they don't care enough to realize (or care to do something about it) that they are getting the the same sh*t over and over.....

"in the end it is a business and if you
have a demand, then you supply it."

While i agree that if there is a demand for something you supply it...the media often times force feeds things until people are brainwashed into believing they want more...So the real question here is are people REALLY demanding this? After all...they have the ability to control what goes on the radio and tv....they choose to rock with this though....

"Artists like ATCQ, De La Soul, Gang Starr, Black Sheep, and so on had music playing on the radio and music channels non-stop, but at the same time their albums from were those hit singles came from were also great music that went on to becoming classics. "

So what does that tell you? That it probably isn't really a demand for this music (Wayne,2 chainz)...for it could be that this is what they only want you to listen to....

Money+Power=Control.....they only play about 20 songs on the radio in regular rotation...all of them are the same artist and their affiliates...Thats called m
monopolization....They are keeping the spins to a select few people in order to keep the money in-house....More money for them...Familiar faces who all are with the program....and less work as well.....They can easily play a Kendrick Lamar record or Q-tip or De La Soul or Asher Roth record right now and let it catch a wave....but they won't because then that would give power back to the artist and the audience....if you reduce options then you force them to either walk away or make a compromise...Most are weak...so they compromise and call it "Evolution"....or "Swag"....

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10-15-2012, 09:01 PM
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For starters privately owned prisons make deals with judges to lock people up. So sometimes people get time for things they normally wouldn't. More prisoners = more money...That's messed up. The bomb makers make too much money and far removed from the spotlight so they can get away with murder. I would like to see how they really go about choosing 'artists' that fits their purpose. I think that would answer a lot of questions.

I have no idea how some of this thug/gang rap life catches on. Been into hip hop for a long time and that never appealed to me. Maybe it's just a matter of force feeding these songs and images to a susceptible audience.

I agree with rhymefest

Edit-

yeah, you're right. If popular artists carried themselves in a more respectable/responsible way, it might have a impact... but that's risking their money. Even with that a lot of people would jump at the chance to be the next bomb.

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10-15-2012, 09:01 PM
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Not sure if I'm getting this whole bomb analogy correct lol, but to me, the "bomb" is created in part by the listeners. If the listeners themselves set a higher standard of music, then artists like Keef and others would have to chance in hell of making money. Record labels only sign or look for what sells, in the end it is a business and if you have a demand, then you supply it. Hip-Hop has been mainstream for years, but the only difference is that it has degraded it's quality. Artists like ATCQ, De La Soul, Gang Starr, Black Sheep, and so on had music playing on the radio and music channels non-stop, but at the same time their albums from were those hit singles came from were also great music that went on to becoming classics. You don't get that anymore from the radio as far as classic albums etc.

Anyway not sure if this is about violence in hip-hop or mainstream music, but that's my opinion ^^....

EDIT: When I said there is a demand, it was meant in response to sells. If a product is profitable, then it is clear that there is a demand for that product. The listeners aren't literally saying "please, please gives us more of this type of music...," but record companies know what is catching on. Record companies don't give two f*cks if the music is actually good or well presentation of hip-hop culture itself, as long as they are making money.

There was this video that I watched a while ago about old gang members from the Bronx that grew up in the hip-hop culture of the 70's and one of them said that back in the days the artists and listeners were the ones in control of the music and culture. They were the ones that practice the art and showed the outer places what hip-hop culture was about. You've seen those classic hip-hop movies like Wild Style, Beatstreet, and Style Wars where in each one you have white people coming into the ghetto's of The Bronx to peep out what this hip-hop phenomenon was about. The youth of back then were the ones in control of the art because it was something they had created and did it for the enjoyment, so of course the form of art was pure and nothing else. Somewhere along the line the music industry saw that hip-hop is a profitable source of money and since then it has been milking the sh*t out of it. Also many artists are also in it for the money as well lol. The point here is that I do agree with you in that there is brainwashing within hip-hop because the record companies are the ones that dictate what the people listen to and in reality, it should be the other way around. The artists/people are the ones that should tell the record companies what to put out and what is good music. If they don't want to, then go independent. This is the age of the internet, so there are more options on getting music to the public....

...but in the end, it is what is. The casual listeners are the ones that buy into it and support it. Real fans know what's good and where to look for it....
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