Pisces male - shy or just quiet?

[Kimmikat]

I am a virgo gal that is showing some real interest in a Pisces boy for the first time. I have dealed a little bit with them before, but in general I know little about how they "work" and the profiles on the net on that specific sign are so contradictary and vague, so fishkids, help me out

We met up at a party, his mysterious stare caught my interest and we have been sending messages for a couple of weeks. Personally I am more than just a little verbal, I can out-talk just about any man (except sags and geminins, we can keep it going all night,haha) so I can keep a conversation going on my own really. Which is basically what I did for the first week or so. If I wasnt so attracted to him, Id probably give up by day 2. But he is warming up, and replies quickly and even initiates conversations on his own. Still, I am the one asking most qustions and making all the moves. I dont mind, I will often take the lead with boys, but I expect them to..well, take over it after a while, or at least take part, you know? He does to some extent but wow...I'm getting more bored than intrigued by this slowness at times. (I have venus in Leo, Im impatient in love,haha).

I know I'm virgo, I floss, I get up early and I can be a pragmatic ice queen,haha. I'm not romantic, but I am in fact artsy, creative and quite cuddly. I like to discuss philosophy and I am a sucker for music and stuff. Should I just stay away from this poor creature before I damage him for life or he bores me to death with his slowness, or could it be that it is just what I need? After all, I am sometimes too sensible and practical for my own good, I need someone to get me in touch with my wild, vulnerable and creative side. (I have been falling for cancers like 100 times..wonder why ).

My main questions:
1. Are Pisces men just not talkative? The fact that he answers all my questions but rarely asks any, is it because he is self-centered or is he afraid to ask? (Or crappy at conversation)
2. Are they like cancer boys, that any sign of initative is HUGE, and if he pokes you on facebook he will probably propose soon?
3. The fact that I have not scared him away yet, does that mean he's desperate, or do they secretly like straightforward and slightly mad women? Haha
4. I need a funny man who will tell jokes, tease me/stand up to me and play with me..are these sides that Pisces males typically have that can come out when they warm up, or are they just quite serious, detached and well...boring (to me)

We will be meeting again pretty soon, so I'd love some input! Cant wait to seduce him , just wondering if it is in fact a good idea
Edit: We have never talked about horoscopes (Im a little bit into it myself, but I dont expect guys to be) and I have already asked him out, but its not until 2 weeks cause Im going away
I know pisces-virgo are often said to be an unfortunate match, that is why Im asking for help. The combo is new to me. As much as people recommend earth signs they always bore me. Im drawn to fire and water.
I do not have all the details, but my venus is Leo, as said, his is Aquarius.
I have Mars in Virgo, his is in Capricorn.

[john]

If you keep coming at him with all this horoscope stuff no wonder he's trying to hide!
If it were THAT easy,we'd ALL be doing it!
Call him up/text him/e-mail him and say let's go out!
Assuming that is he's not married/involved/recovering/etc.

[Arup R P]

Quiet and calm

[Bubbles]

If you've been researching astrology you already know that you are more than the sum total of your sun sign. There is a whole birth chart to take into account. Knowing this I assume you know the EXACT time this guy was born, date, and location? You can do a birth chart with a great description online yourself at chaos astrology.com or go to astro.com create a synastry chart (comparing your chart & your partners) and post it on here for us to compare. If you just use sun sign you should realize this Pisces is your opposite, so you won't get along well in love. Even if you do the affair won't be long lasting.

Mystery, and a little cute shyness is okay, but he could just be hiding something. Cute Shy or Quiet is usually an indication of insecurity or they're hiding something. in a pisces male or any other sign for that matter, especially with pisces tho. your inexperience is showing. Either way Pisces men go for what they want. Every Pisces man I've been with has taken the lead despite what astrology books say. I know for a fact they prefer to take the lead, it's just if you like leading better they're not going to argue. But it won't be THEIR fantasy. So just keep that in mind for your seduction tactics. These guys are huge dreamers with a vivid imagination, they are well versed when it comes to intimacy even in their early years. The problem is Pisces men tend to be impotent, or quick spenders, so if you're okay with feeling used go for it. Can't always have a perfect prince charming after all.

BTW, you won't damage him he will damage you. for several reasons. Most likely it will end with you both hating each other.

Most Pisces men won't sit there and small talk with you. They aren't any good at it. Even discussing secrets, ideals, death, mysticism, and the like can produce a bored eye roll for this man depending on his other aspects in his chart. They are funny, so spin off a few sarcastic remarks and he'll chime in with his own. But don't expect him to form any concrete plans, or opinions. He's far too mutable.

No, if he pokes you on facebook it doesn't mean he will propose soon. If anything it just means that he wants to get in your pants sooner, that's what this sign wants. Fantasy and SEEXXXX!!! All my Pisces bf's can't get enough! Expect that from yours. It doesn't mean he'll satisfy you though, so find a good Pisces whose into it. lol if he pokes you will he propose...like cancer? you are very childish with this thinking. Even cancer is only doing that (and the proposing for that matter) just to secure you as cancer is an insecure sign. looks like you need to do more research on astrology, or maybe you aren't fully understanding what you've already learned! Be more careful!

I've been told they like bold, straightforward, dominant women. But it's just not true. Every Pisces I've asked and dated (at least 12) likes sweet girly girls. Since you're a virgo it means you keep a tidy appearance, particularly feminine, so that is good. But if you become bossy (or worse) controlling, or picky just like your sign suggests it will drive away your pisces in a flash. You can't always have what you want with this one. If you try he'll just disappear. Basically, just ignoring you, maybe feeling guilty about it, until you've calmed a bit and he can show up again. It's not very fun it's lonely. But you should get used to taking the initiative and making the moves with this guy. Even if he's the more dominant pisces he'll expect you to lead him here and there. The problem is that gets old fast, when you're a girl you want a man who can tke charge, even if you're idealistic yourself. This man is an eternal boy so prep for that.

On top of this that's IF you've found a pisces whose great and into the relationship. The guy you described isn't. If that's the case I know some sad sacks who call themselves Pisces. Very pathetic. You either get a good one or a very bad one. And they are hard to distinguish, because pisces is elusive. I've met some pisces who come from a good family, dress nice, seem to have ambitions (are really just going with the flow, and happen to be successful), seem to be very intelligent...but WOE MAMA were they weak, or confused, or had mental issues, drug problems, they were total liars even just small stuff. it's ridiculous. Be careful with this sign. Some pisces aren't fish at all they are sharks :/ this guy typically won't stand up to you, and if he does it's most likely because he has a stubborn streak - not good. He'll be funny, but possibly embarrassingly so. you just have to know, test your man. Don't become exclusive right away just date. If he slacks off at all, don't give him chances to fix it. With this sign you'll just get a repeat offender who tip toes around your rules he's too smart. Basically you should just try a Capricorn or a Taurus they are the best match for virgo anyways, if you want a Water sign pick a Cancer or a Scorpio. Pisces is the worst pick for you when it comes to the water signs. do more research on sun sign patterns.

The guy you described sounds at least inexperienced. If he's not initiating all of the convos, if he didn't ask for your number (like you gave it to him) he's not a good pisces he's not ambitious enough for a virgo. you'll wind up carrying the relationship which is a pain. If you're still young it's too early to tell, pisces doesn't bloom until later. If he doesn't take the tide ride away, he never will, so he'll be worthless. I got lucky. I wish you the best of luck!




~ If the other signs bore you, it's probably because of their other planetary placements. Sun Sign doesn't tell you much about love. Pay attention to their Venus (intimacy) Mars (desires) Mercury (communication) and Moon (emotions) you have to know their exact birth time, location, and date to figure out their ACCURATE birth chart info. You can substitute 12pm if you are just guessing, but it could be wrong. If you are a Virgo and other Earth Signs bore you, you will not be happy with a Water sign. you most likely have Air in your chart, which makes you a better match for a fire sign. Try out a fire sign. My best friend is a Virgo dating a Leo and they are utterly happy. she tried taurus and capricorn but were too bored. she also tried some pisces, but they couldn't hold up to her strong personality. seems like she was looking for someone manly, who could handle her, and have fun, without making it too serious. Leo was perfect for her. I'd try an Aries personally If your venus is Leo, try somebody with Aries or Sagittarius venus, or possibly an Air venus if you want mental stimulation.

EDIT *******~ Even with your other aspects meshing well with this Pisces, you're still opposites. you will not get each other, you will feel strain and competition as well as confusion. Not good! Even if you other influences are solid this pisces hasn't taken the initiative, which means he's truly not interested. if he gets with you now it's because you're there and he's settling, which even if he falls for you, if that perfect match flashes before his eyes, he'll be entranced with her, and fantasizing, regretting things with you, may even break it off later. that's how pisces is. Go with your heart tho! Best of luck!

[Been There]

If you are going to use astrology, please use REAL astrology.
Sun-sign astrology will not help . .it is too small a piece of the puzzle (6%) to show you the whole picture.

When you say he is a Pisces, you are talking about the sign that appeared behind Sun during the time he was born.
Sun moves through Pisces between late February and late March every year. Takes about 30 days to move through a sign.
But Sun is ONLY 1 out of 10 "planets" in the sky. Each planet represents a different part of our personality, and a different inner need. The ONLY thing that Sun represents is how we need to act IF we are going to like ourselves. The Sun answers questions about how we learn to like who we are .. about how we relate to ourselves. NOT how we relate to others.
Since it is easy to find the Sun (just know the day-month of birth) it is easy to SELL Sun-sign astrology.
Sun-sign astrology sells because it is easy to use ... NOT because it gives useful information by itself.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, from an astrological perspective:
My main questions:
(1) Are Pisces men just not talkative? The fact that he answers all my questions but rarely asks any, is it because he is self-centered or is he afraid to ask? (Or crappy at conversation)
- Mercury is the planet of our communication. If he has Sun in Pisces, he can only have his Mercury in Aquarius, Pisces, or Aries. But the "aspects" that other planets make to Mercury are more important than the sign that Mercury is in.
- The Rising Sign (Ascendant) is our "social mask". We all have a mask we wear when we are with people we don't know really well, when we are not totally comfortable. This mask affects our social communication style too.
- Venus is the planet of how we relate socially and romantically. Along with Mercury, it is a strong indicator of how talkative someone is.

2. Are they like cancer boys, that any sign of initative is HUGE, and if he pokes you on facebook he will probably propose soon?
- Initiative, action .. this is shown by Mars. Not by Sun. You have to look at the sign his Mars is in, and the aspects it makes with other planets.
- The 5th house is the house of romantic love. The sign there, the ruler of that sign, and any planets IN the 5th house will tell how specifically how he approaches romantic love, dating, etc.
- The 7th house is the house of marriage. This tells you how approaches marriage, partnership, commitment.

3. The fact that I have not scared him away yet, does that mean he's desperate, or do they secretly like straightforward and slightly mad women? Haha
- What he likes in a woman is shown mostly by his Venus. And his Moon. What he likes in romance is shown mostly by his 5th house.
You cannot tell anything from the fact that you have not scared him away.
He might be desperate, he might like you just as you are, or he might not care enough to be attracted OR repulsed by you .. it MIGHT be an indication of apathy about you.

4. I need a funny man who will tell jokes, tease me/stand up to me and play with me..are these sides that Pisces males typically have that can come out when they warm up, or are they just quite serious, detached and well...boring (to me)
You want a funny man. Well humor comes from our mind, and Mercury is the planet of our mind. His Sun sign won't tell you anything.
And Pisces if not known as a humorous sign anyway.
BUT ...
humor is ONLY worth 7% of what makes a relationship work. It is a bit bothersome that you invest so much importance in a quality that does no impact on whether or not it becomes a lasting and happy relationship. One would think you are searching for relationship-failure.

As for understanding where he is coming from, pay attention to action.
Do NOT try to read his mind.
Do NOT use Sun signs to try to understand a person.
IF a guy is
(1) interested in you, and
(2) able to make a relationship work
he will ask you out. He will seek you out. He will want to be around you. He will make sure that no other guy swoops in and steals you away, and he will ensure this by actively and obviously pursuing you so that no one else has a chance to swoop in and steal you.

If he's not pursuing you, either he's not interested, or he is not able to act to make a relationship work. Either way, the result is the same . .nothing happens.
And it nothing happens, it doesn't matter WHY nothing happens because you have no control over the situation.