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Will we ever do away with or reform the electoral college?
11-09-2012, 08:23 PM
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Will we ever do away with or reform the electoral college?
I Believe the tech is there to have a more direct democracy and i also thinked its fucked up that if you vote for candidate A the electoral collegiate can vote for candidate B even though you voted for him to vote for can A. P.S sorry bout my grammer i am a lil tired and i am not good with grammer in the first place so sorry

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11-09-2012, 08:31 PM
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Yeah, I like the idea of whoever gets the most votes wins. We would do away with politicians always trying to redistrict to gain more votes

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11-09-2012, 08:31 PM
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I think we should. I know the history, but I think it's justified even with the history.

If, at least we can get the votes to be more proportional to the population of each state by giving electors only for the number of representatives, and not Senate members.

States should also be forced to give over the vote to whoever wins in each congressional district.

That's more Democratic.

That's given we don't go with just a full popular vote.
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11-09-2012, 08:31 PM
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I hope not. There is strong to reason for it. I fear tyranny of the mob when the Left Big Government gets in Power more than Big Business. Big Government can hurt this little guy more than any business. I can walk away from a business. Someone said an individual walked away from government in Anaheim & got shoot. I rest my case.
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11-09-2012, 08:31 PM
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Nope.
"sorry bout my grammer i am a lil tired and i am not good with grammer in the first place so sorry"
Since you're a conservative, we understand your inability to spell and use the English language correctly.
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11-09-2012, 08:31 PM
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The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC).

Every vote, everywhere, would be politically relevant and equal in presidential elections. No more distorting and divisive red and blue state maps. There would no longer be a handful of 'battleground' states where voters and policies are more important than those of the voters in more than 3/4ths of the states that now are just 'spectators' and ignored after the primaries.

When the bill is enacted by states possessing a majority of the electoral votes– enough electoral votes to elect a President (270 of 538), all the electoral votes from the enacting states would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states and DC.

The bill uses the power given to each state by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution to change how they award their electoral votes for President. . It does not abolish the Electoral College, which would need a constitutional amendment, and could be stopped by states with as little as 3% of the U.S. population. Historically, virtually all of the major changes in the method of electing the President, including ending the requirement that only men who owned substantial property could vote and 48 current state-by-state winner-take-all laws, have come about by state legislative action.

The National Popular Vote bill would end the disproportionate attention and influence of the "mob" in the current handful of closely divided battleground states, such as Florida, while the "mobs" of the vast majority of states are ignored. 98% of the 2008 campaign events involving a presidential or vice-presidential candidate occurred in just 15 closely divided "battleground" states. 12 of the 13 lowest population states (3-4 electoral votes), that are non-competitive are ignored, in presidential elections. 9 of the original 13 states are considered “fly-over” now. All of the 10 most rural states are ignored. Over half (57%) of the events were in just four states (Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania and Virginia). Similarly, 98% of ad spending took place in these 15 "battleground" states. At most, 12 states will determine the election.

The current system does not provide some kind of check on the "mobs." There have been 22,453 electoral votes cast since presidential elections became competitive (in 1796), and only 17 have been cast for someone other than the candidate nominated by the elector's own political party. Since 1796, the Electoral College has had the form, but not the substance, of the deliberative body envisioned by the Founders. The electors now are dedicated party activists of the winning party who meet briefly in mid-December to cast their totally predictable rubberstamped votes in accordance with their pre-announced pledges.

With National Popular Vote, the United States would still be a representative democracy, in which citizens continue to elect the President by a majority of Electoral College votes by states, to represent us and conduct the business of government in the periods between elections.

In Gallup polls since 1944, only about 20% of the public has supported the current system of awarding all of a state's electoral votes to the presidential candidate who receives the most votes in each separate state.

The bill has passed 31 state legislative chambers in 21 states. The bill has been enacted by 9 jurisdictions possessing 132 electoral votes - 49% of the 270 necessary to go into effect.

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