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Can the fiscal conservatives/social moderates beat the fiscal liberals and the social liberals?
11-18-2012, 01:06 PM
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Can the fiscal conservatives/social moderates beat the fiscal liberals and the social liberals?
In the East Coast ? Or is it gone forever ? )=

How about fiscal conservative/social libertarian ?

Social moderate = Neither socially liberal nor socially conservative but a blend or in between
Social libertarian = Every social issue is seen from a small government perspective , from the light of the constitution , from the bill of rights , history and what not

I've noticed that fiscal conservatives all over the USA tend to be dissatisfied with both social conservatives and social liberals and in the East Coast they are hungry for social moderation or social libertarianism

Can they beat them ? How about fiscal conservatives/social moderates in conservative states as well ?

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11-18-2012, 01:14 PM
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Socialism fails every time it is tried in this country.

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11-18-2012, 01:14 PM
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I agree with the sailor, Socialism fails every time it is tried in this country
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11-18-2012, 01:14 PM
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I think that you're dreaming. Here in the Northeast, we're quite happy with the new administration and we have always been Liberal. Why? Well considering that the money and stock markets are here, you'd think we'd be conservative. But conservatives tend to strangle growth by excessive spending, and by corruption. We prefer Liberals because they encourage growth by giving the markets and companies more freedom. They might give some guidance, but Liberals are pretty much free market outside of that.

Which is why it'll be a cold day in hell before conservatives ever make any inroads in the Northeast.

OH BTW, I do pay taxes. It's called paying to support my country. Only an Anti-American would have problems supporting their country. There is no such thing as a free ride - that's pie in the sky. And we have more money here than our poor unfortunate, ignorant fellow citizens in red states, so it doesn't bother me much when they take my blue state money to support them. Even when they don't appreciate it. Sounds like socialism to me, but Republicans have hit us with more tax increase here than Democrats. Can't imagine why we don't like them.

Zahavah: You seem to have an intense interest in Politics of the USA for someone in Portugal. Very intense, even enough to personally attack me for having the gall to say something you didn't want to hear.

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11-18-2012, 01:14 PM
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I thought Liberals were against Free Markets and Capitalism? I thought Big Business was the Most Evil in the United States? Did you discover you have a job because of Big Business? Wish you would make up your minds as to what is and what isn't!
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11-18-2012, 01:14 PM
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I don't know. The only true fiscal conservative I know is Sarah Palin, but, for many, she is a bit too conservative on social issues. I don't get it. I am not a religious radical, nor am I pro life, but some people seem to have a problem with those who are. I wonder why? Right now we need someone who is fiscal conservative. Social issues are usually taken care of on the state level.

** Oh Spike. I can only assume that you are too young to pay taxes, or you pay very little. I have many family members in the Northeast and I can tell you that they are NOT happy.
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11-18-2012, 01:14 PM
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All these labels are making my head spin. Look, there are only two actual political philosophies; Left and Right. Moderate is not a political philosophy, it is the lack of one.

On the one hand, you have the Left. They believe the Government owns everything and only allows us to have it. They believe the Government is best suited to control everything and distribute it most efficiently. They do not believe in self-reliance, or free speech or freedom of Religion or the Right to Bear Arms etc. They believe in an all powerful centralized government.

On the other hand, you have the Right. They believe Government is necessary only for the limited role spelled out for it by the Constitution. They believe in individual rights. They believe in freedom. They believe that political power resides in the people and is only loaned to the government temporarily. They believe we are a coutnry of laws, not a country of men. That means they hold that the Constitution is the final word not any politician.

You will learn that there is no way to be "fiscally Conservative" and not be Conservative socially. Why? Because there is no way to be fiscally Conservative and allow massive government spending on social programs. There is no way to be fixcally Conservative and interfer in the free market. There is no way to be fiscally Conservative and allow people to engage in behavior that damages society.

Your last statement makes no sense: "...fiscal conservatives all over the USA tend to be dissatisfied with both social conservatives and social liberals and in the East Coast they are hungry for social moderation or social libertarianism".

The fact is, most people in America live their lives according to a very Conservative philosophy. For instance, things like legalizing pot or redefining marriage get resoundingly defeated everytime the voters have the opportunity to have a say. On the East Coast, these issues fail. That puts the lie to the assertion that people want social Libertarianism. Also, "Social moderation" is Conservative. Social Libertarianism would be "anything goes".

The difference between Conservatives and Liberals is that Conservatives may preach to you about what you should or should not do but Liberals will use to full force of government to force you to do what they think you should do. An example would be health insurance. Conservatives would strongly advise people to purchase health insurance as a prudent and responsible fiscal discision. Liberals seek the ability to fine or jail you for not purchasing it. No Conservative would ever even suggest such a thing.

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