Mayweather-Ortiz PPV numbers exaggerated?

[ez_e91]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/wr...2/mailbag/

I would trust Sports Illustrated-CNN anytime over a website that is biased called "thyblackman.com" Pacquiao-Mosley did better than Mayweather-Ortiz.


Well, Jason, that's an interesting -- and completely incorrect -- interpretation of the piece I wrote last week. Look back at the item: I wrote, citing a source I knew to have direct knowledge of the pay-per-view numbers, that Floyd Mayweather's fight against Victor Ortiz generated approximately 1.15 million pay per view buys. In the same story I noted that, according to a source with direct knowledge of Showtime's number, Manny Pacquiao's fight with Shane Mosley did 1.3 million. I believe that 1.3 million is better than an approximation, as it has been nearly six months since Pacquiao and Mosley fought and by now the number is pretty solid. At no point did I editorialize; I was simply reporting the numbers of the two biggest fights of 2011.

Now, Mayweather's publicist, Kelly Swanson, issued a news release on behalf of Mayweather and Golden Boy Promotions saying Mayweather-Ortiz did 1.25 pay per view buys. On Twitter, I said I stand by my reporting, and I still do. For starters, the numbers Mayweather and Golden Boy are citing are not the actual counted number of buys, but the numbers they anticipate it will be. It's a commonly used practice. Picking up 30,000 to 40,000 buys over the course of the next few weeks is completely reasonable. But saying that 1.25 million is the number right now is simply inaccurate.

Moreover, I continue to be told the number is in the neighborhood of 1.15 and no higher than 1.2. Besides trusting my sources (which I do), this whole thing is fishy. It took more than a month for Mayweather and Co. to release the number. Usually it doesn't take more than a week or two, tops, to put something out there. What I think is that they were hoping that once nearly all the numbers came in, they would be able to report a number higher than Pacquiao's. And anyone who has ever been inside the contentious, insecure relationship between Pacquiao's people and Mayweather's people understand why.

Here's the greater point: Who cares. At the end of the day, we are talking about the difference between 100,000 buys, at most. Both Mayweather and Pacquiao's events were huge successes. They both are enormous pay per view stars. Mayweather generated -- with the help of a $59.95 pay per view price, the highest suggested price for a boxing pay per view ever -- $78.4 million in revenue against Ortiz, making it the second highest grossing non-heavyweight pay per view event of all time. Both Mayweather and Pacquiao's fights are must see TV.

But Twitter and the Internet websites and message boards continue to be polluted by angry fans who have turned Mayweather vs. Pacquiao into the Sharks vs. the Jets. If it's not "Manny fights Floyd's leftovers!" (an especially dumb argument) or "Floyd's afraid of Manny!" (an equally dumb one) it's something else. I don't get it. Both men are great fighters. Both are compelling characters, albeit for different reasons. Why can't we be fans of both? Why can't we wait until the face each other before we take such vitriol spewing positions on who is better? God willing, that day will come soon.



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@Roscoe - the question doesn't improve my life. Does giving a sarcastic answer improve yours?
All I was saying is that I would trust CNNSI's info over a biased website like thyblackman.com. That's all. Happy now?

[Iratehen356]

1. How does this help you in life?
2. It amazes me how many people in this forum pound on their keyboards celebrating how much money they paid to people who would just as soon run over them with a truck on their way to the bank.

This whole number of buys crap is bogus, HBO & Showtime can have those figures within an hour of the last bell, but they keep them private so suckers will keep coming to the carnival. He has a "source" in Showtime? Use your freaking head a minute why would Showtime want to admit that a competitive distributor beat their ratings? Why in the heck would HBO want to pour more salt on their wound by admitting Show did more? Geez guy think for yourself sometime, you may enjoy the experience!

Edit- There was nothing sarcastic about my answer! What value Floyd's fight with Ortiz having fewer total buys than Manny vs. Mosley is a valid question given this question and others like it. Ok lets assume thyblackman is biased in their "reporting" on those figures, what value does that provide YOU.

Reread #2 & my last paragraph again.

@Kalambre- Me a Flomo, that's funny! I suggest you stay away from my posts, otherwise I will bring you to the dark side one step at a time!

[kalambre]

See? Roscoe O, a certified flomo admitted it's bogus.lol

[Vino Rotcha]

the very interesting question is "Why it took them 1 month to gather the data?"

LMAO