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Is it possible to do network marketing online without having to actually speak to people over the phone?
11-19-2012, 02:40 AM
Post: #1
Is it possible to do network marketing online without having to actually speak to people over the phone?
I love Melaleuca products and would like to join the company as a rep to make money and also because I feel passionate about there products, however I am not keen on network marketing the old fashioned way by prospecting people that aren't looking for an opportunity. Is there any way the build a sucessful online business by using a website that creates free leads and is fully optimized ( this I don't know how to do currently, but also really want to learn!) If so how and where would I go from there? I am new to Internet Marketing, but I really want to learn it and market a product that I love. I haven't signed up with Melaleuca yet as I am looking for a rep who currently markets the product this way and is sucessful at it. I would like a mentor that can guide me through this and help me realize my dream of financial freedom. There are so many scammers out there, I just want to learn for myself a duplicatible system that I can use and pass down to the people that I may introduce.
Can only legit people respond, I am not interested in any remarks, I am looking for a genuine answer!

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11-19-2012, 02:48 AM
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Multi level marketing is a scam. Run, run, run !

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11-19-2012, 02:48 AM
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I hope not! There are too many telemarketers going on already, speaking or recorded messages. You might check with Melaleuca and see if they allow it. My son is with a company similar to this and the do not allow this. Good Luck! ~-~
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11-19-2012, 02:48 AM
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Look for the Yahoo Group MLM Survivors. It has thousands of members who have lost friends, loved ones, money, and more due to these types of money making schemes. About 99% of those who attempt these types of businesses fail at them. Those who succeed, typically make hundreds of dollars a year, but then end up spending that on "tools" for the business, Melalueca is one of the most hated companies by those who are familiar with MLM products. I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. And marketing it on the internet is less successful than trying to hunt down people in person.

Look for a regular job and don't waste your time and money of this. You will regret it if you get involved.

I have tried this type of thing many times and FINALLY learned my lesson.

There is no such thing as duplicatible system. That is just the line they feed you to get you to join. MLM will not lead you to financial freedom. That is bogus hype.
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11-19-2012, 02:48 AM
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I'm not personally familiar with Melaleuca, so this is going to be more of a general answer, than a specific one to that business. Yes, it can be done without having to speak to people on the phone to an extent. You should talk to your leads (people that you know are interested) and anyone that signs up under you, as well. Most people like to know that there's a real person their dealing with. So, while a phone is usually necessary, it's not necessary to use it to bother people who aren't interested. Does that make sense?
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11-19-2012, 02:48 AM
Post: #6
 
Yes you can do this this way and I would recommend it. I am not in that co - have been out of mlm since 04 because my husband has been seriously ill but we have been part of a co that did almost everything by web and of another where we pretty much pioneered web marketing and were quite successful. We now do only consulting and training. If you prospect by web see if you can't do better than the services that just blindly advertise "your own business with no work and lots of profit" and sell the same prospects to you and 100 others. You want to find ppl who do want to work.

MLM is NOT a get rich quick with no work proposition. Your ads should be in your own area and might even say tired of answering ads that offer you the moon and only produce green cheese? Want to put real effort into a real opportunity? Give your web site - most good mlm cos offer a web site and include an emai address to contact you. You will not get the flood of prospects that the blind ads produce but the ones you get will be worth something. Design a basic reply email and a follow up. Include the answers to questions most ppl will have. If the person hangs in and responds to this you have a validf prospect that is worth a call to meet and close and because you stayed local you can meet them. Get your upline to team up with you on your first 10-25 calls. By then you should be training your own downline.

That's all I will donate free. If you want more solid info on building your MLM any MLM please feel free to email me. I will not recruit you into any program but I do charge a reasonable fee for info and consulting.
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11-19-2012, 02:48 AM
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Your line of thought is absolutely great.

One of the greatest benefits of Internet Marketing is that you do not have to speak to prospects and do cold calling or hard selling.

Once you learn the "secrets" of finding a niche market and positioning yourself as a leader in that arena, your prospects will come to you... rather than the other way around.

MLM is not my cup of tea, though I have tried it in the past.

Specifically on the area of wellness industry, if that is where your passion lies as you have mentioned... I have a few personal friends who have made it big with Herbalife. I know that they do have a totally web based online model which offers you the benefits of MLM without the need to personally contact folks. Perhaps you may want to check it out.

Good Luck.
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11-19-2012, 02:48 AM
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Hi,

Continue to use Melaleuca products if you like them, but be forewarned here: http://www.tto.bcs.uwa.edu.au/TTO_home/faq

I'm glad you have not signed up yet. You will not find financial freedom in Network Marketing. Believe me - been there, done that.

Wow! I'm glad you asked about MLM, aka Network Marketing.

Freakanomics is right - network marketing is a hoax. Get the book:. Freakonomics [Revised and Expanded]: A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything (Hardcover) by Steven D. Levitt

Check out this book at your local library.How to Take Advantage of the People Who Are Trying to Take Advantage of You: 50 Ways to Capitalize on the System (Paperback)
by Joseph SB Morse

Be informed. Practice due diligence. Demand proof. Proof that can be verified. Bank statements, tax returns, etc.

Get this book at your local libary or Amazon: (False Profits: Seeking Financial and Spiritual Deliverance in Multi-Level Marketing and Pyramid Schemes (Paperback)
by Robert L. Fitzpatrick .

Only the most virulent, ruthless, aggressive, con artists are successful at Network Marketing. You have to be willing to screw a lot of people into thinking you have a plan for financial Nirvana and they will talk a lot about altruism and spirituality and how working an ordinary job is a dead end They call it Just Over Broke (JOB). In reality, you will go broke buying worthless MLM products at sky-high prices.

It's like a chain letter, a pyramid, a Ponzi scheme. Don't believe people when they say it isn't. They lie through their teeth. MLM is a snake-pit of liars and those that aren't lying are hopelessly misinformed.

Read this before you waste any money on Network Marketing: (http://skepdic.com/mlm.html).

You will hear a lot of arguments that make network marketing sound like the Holy Grail of home based "businesses". Like comparing apples to computer chips. You will always hear some very convincing arguments that it is legitimate - every one is a con and illustrates how creative con artists are.

The are very CON-vincing - that's convincing with a capital C for calamnity, a big O for obnoxious, and N for nauseous. There are no nuggets in this scam. See: (http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRela...mlm.html).

Here are the 10 biggest lies of network marketing (http://www.mlmwatch.org/01General/10lies.html); read the truth and steer clear of this world-wide hoax.

MLM is the biggest scam in the world and it is going global with companies like Tiens.

They will tell you that all you need is fresh leads from a good mailing list and people will sign up faster than a NASCAR race car.

Are you kidding me? Fresh MLM leads! Don't fall for that.

Get real.

Remember, There's a sucker born every minute...and two to take 'em. Burn that into your brain.

If their leads are so good, where is their money-back guarantee? Leadbakery is just one example of a list seller and they are even worse than the MLM companies.

Listen! There has never been a successful course or book on MLM success - all boil down to this:

talk to lots of people with questions like "If I could show you a way to make lots of money quick, would you be interested?" or "If I could show you a sure-fire way to build a financial fortress that would protect you forever, would you be iinterested?" or "Social Security is not secure. Build a MLM company and retire rich".

That's the first warning sign that something is rotten in Denmark.

Yes, some will sign up, but unless you are a "heavy hitter" and use illegal methods to trap people into becoming distributors, honest people cannot succeed at this.

Do you know why these courses never work? None of them work because the concept is a con - it's the confidence man's dream, jam packed with hype and hyposcrisy.

The only people that will be making money are the list brokers selling the mailing list - and the course writers and seminar creators. If it was such a good deal, why wouldn't they join a MLM company? The mailing list would be free to them. You don't see them giving up a lucrative mailing list business to get into something that doesn't work. They are smart. They get it. And expensive training courses - what a joke. They offer courses that will never work for the gullible and naive - the GRQ crowd.

And I always wondered why none of the people who worked the administrative side of the "business" were not distributors if it was such a great deal. They knew a job was better than the smoke and mirrors, pie in the sky hype used to sell MLM. They knew that only the heavy hitters made any real money.


MLM is the world's biggest scam. I have tried it a couple of times, the last being Herbalife. It has now moved into the Internet to trap people into believing that they can Get Rich Quick. It is going global.

The only way to make big money is to sell distributorships for thousands of dollars or sell seminar tapes and books.

I once went to a seminar given by Herbalife. The president came to speak. We thought we would learn the secret from the horses mouth on how to get the fiasco to work. We couldn't believe how shallow his advice was. It boiled down to "talk to a lot of people". That was his "secret"..

If you do the math, and you are able to sign up lots of people, which is doubtful, you soon run out of people. You get 2, then those 2 get 2, etc. It the old binary progression. Do it 10 times and you are in the thousands. With every progression, the number doubles. 2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024, 2024,4048,9096. The problem is those people in the beginning of the progression opt-out and gobble up the progression faster than Pac-Man. This is known as the "Drop Out Rate".

So what happens when thousands of people are doing this and with the internet it could be millions. You soon run out of people to talk to. And most people are smart enough to know it's a scam so right away you lose a huge part of potential prospects.

Think about it.

In fact, finally, the numbers will exceed the entire world's population. It is a total dream world, a fantasy, completely out of touch with reality. It always looks good on paper, but none of the "heavy hitters" want to talk about drop-out rates.

Hey! What looks good in a spreadsheet, doesn't translate to reality.

The fact is that only the people who set up the program make money. The next level is all those scam artists that sell and give seminars on how to succeed in MLM. None of the schemes work because the concept is fatally flawed.

Why would anyone with a brain pay $30 for an herbal shampoo that they can buy at the local supermarket for $1. The same with pomegranate juice and Noni joice and all the other miracle juices, algae, and other strange things, even flower pollen.

Are you kidding me?

Get real.

Next, you will read all the anecdotal claims that the product will cure cancer and all sorts of other maladies. This is just another form of fraud. Where are the scientific double and triple blind studies? There ain't any. Sorry.

Listen! Ask about the drop-out rate. Yes, the drop out rate.

Over 99% of the people who sign up will drop out after a few months or less. So even if you sign up a few people, they will be gone in months, if not weeks, when they find out how many people they have to talk to for just one distributor.

And your friends, co-workers, and relatives will not like you badgering them to join and will avoid you at all costs.

And most of the people who sign up are down-and-out desperate, who can ill afford to waste their money and who may be liable to criminal prosecution for promoting unregistered securities. And that's just in the USA. Foreign companies like Tiens leave you no recourse to any real legal remedies or enforcement.

Most of these programs die eventually leaving the suckers who signed up holding the bag. I had them die on me and not knowing any better, signed up for the latest MLM scam. After several attempts, I finally came to realize that it was all just a scam - some people became almost like religious zealots when they talked about their program that was going to make everyone rich and quick too. I lost a good friend when he believed my wild claims, put down $3,000 and lost it all.

The "industry" is full of disingenuous people whose mantra is "Fake it 'til you make it". Doesn't work. More fraud. They will give you testimonials of people who have made money, but they are liars and what they say cannot be proven. If it's so great why is there so much hype?

Here is a trick your upline will employ to get reluctant prospects to sign up. They will tell Ms. Reluctant that they will put some people under her and they take Mr. Hopeful who has already become a distributor and paid the fee and stick him under Ms. Reluctant which forces Ms. Reluctant to either buy in or lose the distributor. This is what happened to me in Herbalife. I was Mr. Hopeful. I thought I was signing up under a successful guy at the top known as a "heavy hitter", but I soon found out I had been scammed. Without telling me, he put me under Ms. Reluctant to force Ms. Reluctant to become a distributor. I did not like my new sponsor and after spending thousands on mailings, I finally dropped out. This is known as "stacking" and is supposedly illegal but it happens all the time.

Listen! My upline in Herbalife made more money selling a sales pamphlet than they did working their MLM business. We mailed out thousands of these pamphlets that we bought from our sponsor for a dime and he probably had them printed for a penny or less. He sold so many of them he had to set up a warehouse to hold and ship them.

Now, it's all done on the Internet via e-mail. But instead of mailing booklets, you get a Web site and collect e-mail addresses. But a fraud is still a fraud no matter what the media is that promotes it.

This was right before the Internet became popular and I was buying mailing lists through mailing list brokers and mailing thousands of booklets with not much success. I was lucky if 1% of 1% signed up as distributors. And they dropped out faster than I could add new ones.. Pretty soon, you run out of quality people to mail to. The internet makes this even worse, but they have to be more careful, but the spam continues to explode.

Check out this Web site: http://www.vandruff.com/mlm_faq.html... - for more facts, not hype about MLM and what a world-wide fraud it is.

I will probably get lots of MLMers who will villify me for trashing MLM, but I've been there and done it and I know first hand what a fraudulent scam it is that can destroy your life, drain you wallet and ruin your friendships.

Kindest Personal Regards,

Walt Brown
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wab@theworld.com

P.S. Remember, there are no get rich quick schemes that work. If there were, the entire world would be rich in an instant, or as they say, a New York minute. I used to be gullible and naive and fell for some of them - no more. Be a sceptic. Be a doubting Thomas. Why are there thousands of GRQ schemes, because they work! Thousands of Gullible people believe that there is such a thing as GRQ and con artists take advantage of that. Demand proof, not hype.

P.P.S. Jeekers! You gotta remember - if it sounds too good to be true, it is.

P.P.P.S. Find some other way to make money. Have you tried e-bay? Get this book - How to Buy, Sell & Profit on eBay by Adam Ginsberg. Get this one too - Don't Get Burned on eBay by Shauna Wright. It cost nothing to sign up and find out about it. There are lots of tutorials where you can learn from the experts and most of it is free. Try getting free tutorials and expert advice from the so-called MLM gurus - free stuff would ruin their con.
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11-19-2012, 02:48 AM
Post: #9
 
I started with Melaleuca in December to try their products, but I was also looking for something I could do at home, and get the help I needed. I was like you, needing to be taught how to do this. I don't have a "warm market" that people talk about, so I have used the internet to find my leads.

We are not an MLM...we are consumer direct marketing, and I will share with you what makes Melaleuca different. Melaleuca also offers a 100% refund if within the first 4 months if you find that you are not happy. I've never had that from a company before.

I am so glad that I was contacted by the team and person I was. Our team is successful, and my enroller has been with Melaeuca for 3-4 years and doing quite well. She has helped me with training, we are given a free website, and get a lot of training and support. I would love to share with you what I have learned. Please contact me at woodwork4you@gmail.com and I would love to introduce you to our team.

You could also visit my website:

http://www.momswin.com/woodwork
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