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Do you think change is coming?
11-26-2012, 08:40 PM
Post: #1
Do you think change is coming?
Watching the world just in this last year or so has made me think that everything is about to change. I'm talking about a social change, something big that will change everything, all over the world.

In Europe and America just look at: The Occupy movement, the riots in London, the tuition fee protests across Britain, the opposition to SOPA and PIPA, and the growing anti-authoritarian attitude that more people seem to be expressing.

In Northern Africa and the Middle East: Dictators are falling like flies, Libya proved that the western nations will help the people of these countries, the Syrian civil war shows that the people in these countries will endure long conflicts to get their freedom, Turkish shelling and raids in Syria show that more powerful nations are willing to take sides in larger conflicts against dictatorships. Many countries would never have gotten themselves involved in these dangerous conflicts before now.

I'm convinced that change is coming in Asia, but not necessarily in the way I would have hoped. China is growing ever more powerful, and I've heard that several politicians think that war between America and China at some point in the future is inevitable. But I think that at some time quite soon, China will follow the example of the Middle East, and there will be a very large revolution. Tension between North and South Korea is supposedly higher than it has been in 50 years since a small artillery battle a year or two ago. So perhaps a war to unify Korea will be happening soon in the future, or perhaps the disruption of order following Kim Jong Il's death will create popular unrest and cause revolution in North Korea.

So, I think worldwide change is coming very soon, perhaps even more groundbreaking progress than the '60s brought to the western world. What do you think? If you think change is coming, how soon?
I do not necessarily have the idea that the US is opposed to dictatorships, they are undoubtedly the most dictator-friendly of the westernised nations. But the (smart) people (as in citizens) in America are just as opposed to dictatorships as we are here in Britain. It's the government and idiots that are wrong in America.

And also, I'm an atheist, and true reason is independent of emotions, it's our responsibility to go by reason and not emotion. If you see someone you know to be a killer, they need to be seperated from those they could harm, so you should call the police. If that killer is a member of your family, reason still says you should call the police, as they are still a danger to others. The point that people promoting reason are making is that regardless of your emotions, the logical thing to do is almost always identical.

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11-26-2012, 08:49 PM
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I think change happens gradually, but maybe seems sudden and dramatic, because the comes a point where it affects our lives. People don't stay the same- we're choke full of emotions, which I think is basically the driving force behind any action, there's not sterile "reason" as athiests seem to think will change the world for a better place. Reason is relative, depending on people's emotions, characters.
We're gonna notice global change more cos the world's so connected so e know, see it's happening.
How old are you? I'm young and it seems like there's massive changes coming, things are changing but then what generation hasn't lived through massive change? It seems like young people critise the older generation for not doing anything or handing down a "bad" world, but they probably said the same to their previous generation and so on. Change always happens, it will, depending on your situation you will feel it in a terrible way or you will just be able to sit back and muse on it. People get hurt when there's change in this world- change is people trying to better their lives essentially, trying to be happier, others get hurt, then others bring about change by trying to patch up the wrong descisions and reforms are put in place, but then people's emotions get in the way, the "self", and there's more change

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11-26-2012, 08:49 PM
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People tie the Arab spring to things: do not like, they fear, or they have interest in. Arab spring is where normal Arab people rebelled against corruption, discrimination, opportunistic, living under slavery of dictators and their families and relatives. Arab spring has nothing to do with the outside world or others outside the Arab states except oppositions living in exile/s. The Arab spring has nothing to do with religions and religious issues. Arabs, for the first time, were able through the web such as facebook and Twitter to organize large demonstrations against Dictators.

• First : (TUNISIA)
Arab Spring started in Tunisia:
Google: mohamed bouazizi

• Last : (SYRIA)
Because of the extreme fear and intimidation Syrians lived with for 42 years. Under the same illegal, racial, criminal, most ugly regime in the world. The last Arab state that joined the Arab spring was Syria.
The last uprising against this regime was in the 1982. Where the last Illegal president Hafez Assad and his brother killed 40.000 Syrians to appease them and destroyed the city of Hamah.

Google : Hamah city,

The current uprising started In the Syrian city of Dara’a on the border with Jordan. Where some kids, influenced by the TV’s news of the Arab spring in other Arab states, wrote things on walls where the kids were forcefully taken from their parents, imprisoned, tortured, their nails were taken off, and at the beginning refused to free them under any circumstances. As a result their parents rebelled and some of them were shot died by the regime. This resulted the uprising to start and escalate in many other areas of Syria.
For many months, the regime as used to in the last 42 years, used extreme force, torture, and direct killing against peaceful protestors and accused them of all kind of bad accusations such as terrorists. The same way did in the last 42 years of tutoring under the lie that the regime was fighting Israel and America where anybody opposed that lie was taken, tortured, considered traitor and executed. They banned all kind of media from entering Syria and converted Syria into a large prison. All that resulted in the escape of soldiers with their arms from the army and established small armed groups to protect civilians. Later, armed struggle against the regime started after months of daily killing of civilians and no help of any kind from outside Syria.

Now over 30.000 were killed and still is rising, 100s of thousands in prisons, women have been raped by the regime, Kids and babies have been slaughtered, millions fled the country, cities have been destroyed by most sophisticated arms. The Syrian regime even, have been bullying, harassing, and threatening Syrians and/or others around the world who opposed. Unfortunately, still there is nobody really helping to stop the massacres until now.

Google: The Syrian Revolution (English) | Facebook - (Includes massacre’s photos)

Al-Ba’ath party has 2 branches, one ruling Syria under Al-Assad and the other was ruling Iraq under Saddam Husain with the same ideology and ideas.

The Syrian story started with the father (Hafez Assad) who came from the poor Alawis village (Qardaha) on the Syrian coast. He wanted to study medicine but he couldn’t because he was too poor. He went to the military school and later he and his colleagues in Al-Ba’ath party in November 1970 illegally and forcefully overthrew the government and took over the power in Syria. Then, Assad imprisoned those colleagues until they died in prisons and controlled Syria alone with his family and made Syria the only Apartheid Arab state. Alawis from Qardaha and other Alawis villages invaded the Syrian cities like Locusts and controlled all kind of high positions in Syria. The way they speak has a tune and some special words and this distinguished them. Syrians feared them to death whenever they are because they know that they are above the law. Directly after Hafez Assad passed away, the constitution was altered and his son Bashar inherited illegally the presidency of Syria and the regime remained the same. Now, Al-Assad family and cousins and relatives control absolutely everything in Syria, and they became one of the richest worldwide and that is one reason why they do not want to leave power.
The other reason is that they are Alawis, a religious group who follow the Shia (Iran) in Islam; and that why Iran is unconditionally supporting them. Iran has been helping the regime by influencing Russia and china in the UN, supplying the regime with arms and Iranian soldiers. Recently, Iranian official said that the victory of Assad is the victory of Iran.

Nobody is assisting the Syrians. They are left alone to die. (Assad = Hitler)'s regime has been taking advantage of the careless and reluctant Arab and international situation and has been dropping TNT barrels on civilians and committing genocide. The current Holocaust is going on in Syria.
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11-26-2012, 08:49 PM
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sure change is coming...

I don't know where you get the idea that the US is against dictatorships, the US love dictatorships as long as they are take orders from Washington. for example Saudi Arabia,...
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11-26-2012, 08:49 PM
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I don't like war, but I want my motherland to get bigger and bigger.
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