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how does an illegal immigrant get a social security number?
12-23-2012, 02:15 AM
Post: #1
how does an illegal immigrant get a social security number?
im really curious as to how a illegal immigrant with no documents can get a social security number,
i know people who have done this without any papers,, so how do they do it and get away with it? please no rude comments about deportation, i just want a simple explanation on how you can do that with no documents?

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12-23-2012, 02:23 AM
Post: #2
 
They buy fake cards at places like flea markets. It's a huge problem.

http://www.cis.org/identitytheft

The findings include:

Illegal immigrants are not “undocumented.” They have fraudulent documents such as counterfeit Social Security cards, forged drivers licenses, fake “green cards,” and phony birth certificates. Experts suggest that approximately 75 percent of working-age illegal aliens use fraudulent Social Security cards to obtain employment.

Most (98 percent) Social Security number (SSN) thieves use their own names with stolen numbers. The federal E-Verify program, now mandated in only 14 states, can detect this fraud. Universal, mandatory use of E-Verify would curb this and stop virtually 100 percent of child identity theft.

Illegal immigration and high levels of identity theft go hand-in-hand. States with the most illegal immigration also have high levels of job-related identity theft. In Arizona, 33 percent or all identity theft is job-related (as opposed to identity theft motivated simply by profit). In Texas it is 27 percent; in New Mexico, 23 percent; in Colorado, 22 percent; California, 20 percent; and in Nevada, 16 percent. Eight of the 10 states with the highest percentage of illegal aliens in their total population are among the top 10 states in identity theft (Arizona, California, Florida, Texas, Nevada, New York, Georgia, and Colorado).

Children are prime targets. In Arizona, it is estimated that over one million children are victims of identity theft. In Utah, 1,626 companies were found to be paying wages to the SSNs of children on public assistance under the age of 13. These individuals suffer very real and very serious consequences in their lives.

Illegal aliens commit felonies in order to get jobs. Illegal aliens who use fraudulent documents, perjure themselves on I-9 forms, and commit identity theft in order to get jobs are committing serious offenses and are not “law abiding.”

Illegally employed aliens send billions of dollars annually to their home countries, rather than spending it in the United States and helping stimulate the American economy. In October 2008 alone, $2.4 billion was transferred to Mexico.

Tolerance of corruption erodes the rule of law. Corruption is a serious problem in most illegal aliens’ home countries. Allowing it to flourish here paves the way for additional criminal activity and increased corruption throughout society.

Leaders support perpetrators and ignore victims. Political, civic, religious, business, education, and media leaders blame Americans for “forcing” illegal aliens to commit document fraud and identity theft. No similar concern is expressed for the American men, women, and children whose lives are destroyed in the process.

The Social Security Administration and Internal Revenue Service facilitate illegal immigrant-driven identity theft. Both turn a blind eye to massive SSN fraud and take no action to stop it. The Social Security Administration assigns SSNs to new-born infants that are being used illegally. The IRS demands that victims pay taxes on wages earned by illegal aliens using their stolen SSNs, while taking no action to stop the identity theft.

State and local governments need to adopt tougher laws to supplement federal efforts. The Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is targeting large document fraud rings and the most egregious employers, but their resources are limited and stretched across multiple priorities. In 2007, identity theft cases represented only 7 percent of the total ICE case load.

Employers must do their part. They can ensure that they have a legal workforce by using a combination of the federal government’s E-Verify and Social Security Number Verification Service systems and by signing up for the federal government’s IMAGE program or privately conducted audits.

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12-23-2012, 02:23 AM
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just commit another crime and buy a stolen or fake one
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12-23-2012, 02:23 AM
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They steal it and commit identity theft and fraud.
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12-23-2012, 02:23 AM
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They buy a valid number on the black market for $50 or so. There are certain streets in LA where you can just go stand and someone will come up and ask you what you are interested in. There are some popular, common names where there are 50 or 100 people all over the United States, paying Social Security into the system for the same number. The government doesn't do anything because they don't know which person is the right one, and they need the money from the other 99 people.
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12-23-2012, 02:23 AM
Post: #6
 
They do identity theft
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12-23-2012, 02:23 AM
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With illegal documents, or stolen identities which are everywhere......................Just go to the Libraries with their lawyers, and go to their offices. You will see lines and lines as so many pay for information to get around the system................
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12-23-2012, 02:23 AM
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Some buy actual physical fake cards; but companies who knowingly hire undocumented workers are lax in their "enforcement," and just take the worker's word for it that their number is real.

Fun fact: Since they cannot gain any Social Security benefits, the Social Security trust fund has received a net benefit of somewhere between $120 billion and $240 billion from unauthorized immigrants.

That represented 5.4 percent to 10.7 percent of the trust fund's total assets.
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12-23-2012, 02:23 AM
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Stolen wallets, online breakin's to accounts with the numbers, and much, much more that is criminal in nature.
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12-23-2012, 02:23 AM
Post: #10
 
They can't get one legally. If they have one,it is fake.
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