Low order males ????????????????

[queen b]

Could this post from an answerer explain the bitterness?

"Most of them are men on the low end of the male totem pole (low pecking-order males).

They're in a situation where they've already been pushed down to the bottom of the heap by their fellow males, which is frustrating enough. However, now that women have been given the right to compete in the job market and the right to choose their own mates, these low order males are faced with not only having to endure rejection from women but now they also have to worry about competing with them in the job market.

This is why so many of them hate us so much. They need us and want us as mates, yet we mostly reject them and by competing with them in the job market we are also pushing them even farther down the social status totem pole. Such conflicting emotions have to be very difficult to handle and it's human nature to want to blame the "source" of your frustration than to blame yourself.

High order males don't have any reason to dislike or fear women...and they probably never will. Low order males are a completely different story."

[queen b]

I think there is something to it, but you will see some pretty obnoxious misogyny coming from rich d-bags, too.

[Insanesack506]

I thought you meant Mail Order Lows....

I can see what he means.. but I can't really relate to it.... I find the concept of a 'low order male' very obscure to say the least....

It might help if some people out there actually got a grip and learned to stop playing games with each other and causing pain selfishly and stupidly.... nobody wins that one in the long run.

[Hannah]

Yes. Successful people are not bitter.

[nurgle69]

Pretty much, the idea of women in the work place was highly objected to on the grounds that it would reduces the chances of a man getting a job which highly negatively effected his chances of being what the society encouraged, which was to be a family man.

Look at the world to day Middle east, China and going down that road India, huge social unrest and crime(up to terrorism) is believed to be caused by vast numbers of young men with really no chance of marriage or having children, either by richer men with multiple wives or places with female infanticide abortions leaving the millions of men to outnumber women heavily in the marriageable age (20 to 40)

[O]

yes sounds like a desperate extremist

[?]

I agree completely. Not sure what an above poster meant by "low order males" being obscure- apparently that person has never seen a male cashier older than 16.

The most angry, sexist, and "get back in the kitchen" style remarks almost always come from men working at Wal-Mart, the Gas station, or McDonald's. I did once meet a male engineer who really was against women, and felt "discriminated against" as a white male. The low order males are definitely a thing- they're called "poor people", and I feel bad for them.

Those are especially the kind of men that get "Friendzoned". Sure, an unemployed high school dropout might find a Wal-Mart shift manager super exciting, just as a female warehouse box-mover found the sexist male engineer awesome. Intelligent, well-educated women, however? Laugh at him.

I'm not sure what else there is to say- but your excerpt was completely true. There are many men out there who feel women shouldn't be managers or doctors or some such- nearly every guy like that is a janitor, cashier, or makes sandwiches.

It's a lot easier to think "oh she's just a dumb woman, she got that engineering job because she has boobs" then it is to think "she spent 6 years in college, got straight A's since elementary school, that's why she's an engineer and I clear her toilet. The dumb bitch!"

[Maclabeb]

Women treat some men badly and then these men reciprocate.

[Struth]

"these low order males are faced with not only having to endure rejection from women" Apparently. according to females in every media, females suffer the same fate. It is clearly onerous on a man these days not to have anything to do with low order females. Unless he wants to get ripped off blind in the Family Court. So now men are forced to do what females have always done. This is actually a boon for females since If only men were more like females the World would be a better place. Isn't it so much better now?

High order males don't have any reason to dislike or fear women...and they probably never will. Low order males are a completely different story." We know that men and females are the same and gender is just a social construct. So what you are saying is that feminists, for example, are low order females.

Most interesting. Good that you can finally admit the situation you have created and how it has obviously benefited females so much.

PLUS, after 2020, the benefits will be complete and females will be free of all these low order males. Eventually. All the high order men who can afford the technology will be unavailable to females so they will have to cast their eyes ever further down the totem pole if they want to snag a man. As luck would have it, tho, A Woman Needs a Man Like a Fish Needs a Bicycle. So we are just making your dreams come true. Men are truly great aren't we?