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Is Obama Moving the USA to Worker Owned Cooperatives like GM and Education?
02-04-2013, 02:02 AM
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Is Obama Moving the USA to Worker Owned Cooperatives like GM and Education?
The Socialist Democrats web page has a core belief in evil corporations being taken over and run by cooperatives. From their web site they say, "Today, corporate executives who answer only to themselves and a few wealthy stockholders make basic economic decisions affecting millions of people. Resources are used to make money for capitalists rather than to meet human needs. We believe that the workers and consumers who are affected by economic institutions should own and control them.Social ownership could take many forms, such as worker-owned cooperatives or publicly owned enterprises managed by workers and consumer representatives. Democratic socialists favor as much decentralization as possible. While the large concentrations of capital in industries such as energy and steel may necessitate some form of state ownership, many consumer-goods industries might be best run as cooperatives.
Democratic socialists have long rejected the belief that the whole economy should be centrally planned. While we believe that democratic planning can shape major social investments like mass transit, housing, and energy, market mechanisms are needed to determine the demand for many consumer goods.

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02-04-2013, 02:10 AM
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Unionizing is the first step to Socialism. But when the leaders take over, you are shyt out of luck. In other words, you get nothing from the union but you will get what the government wants to give you!

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02-04-2013, 02:10 AM
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GM is IPO'ing this fall.

Fail.
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02-04-2013, 02:10 AM
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No. General Motors and public education are not "worker owned cooperatives." General Motors is a private company, and public education isn't owned by anyone.
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02-04-2013, 02:10 AM
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Like I have answered before
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America is heading towards a new from of communism
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Yes communism the same as Russia of old
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Where a few own it all and the little people work for a dollar a day as China use to be
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America is heading for this pay roll line with in 25 years
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And when it happens hate to say but no one will notice only in history books of the late 1900's that people had a chance to own a home
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And in 25 years that idea will only be possible if one works for the right company
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Because companies will be the main owner of Homes in America
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The old Coal Miner days of owing you soul to the company store are in the near future
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02-04-2013, 02:10 AM
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Are conservatives and republicans moving the USA towards theocratic fascism?

The defining characteristics of fascism are:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

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02-04-2013, 02:10 AM
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Obama out in 2012 Let's restore America's Dignity and Power No other President in the history of the US has bowed to Muslim Kings or any Other King We are the World power Hope we don't forget that"
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02-04-2013, 02:10 AM
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No.

President Obama wanted America to continue to make cars--apparently you don't. "Market mechanisms" DON"T always work--you seem to have forgotten the Great Depression.
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02-04-2013, 02:10 AM
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According to Obama - no. He's moving the USA to GOVERNMENT owned companies. Of course every socialist who is ABLE to be honest tells you THAT is their ACTUAL goal.
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02-04-2013, 02:10 AM
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It has already happened here. We have a cooperative electric company. It keeps our costs down so my business can make money and employ people. Duh.


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