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Is it time to give up on the Constitution?
02-14-2013, 04:22 PM
Post: #1
Is it time to give up on the Constitution?
After a century of the relentless trashing of our Constitution the progressives have achieved their goal of "changing America":

8/31/1910 Osawatomie, Kansas, Rep. president Teddy Roosevelt defines the progressive agenda: national health care, social security and the championing of unions (the vanguard of all "progressive" movements). TR said, “This, I know, implies a policy of a far more active governmental interference with social and economic conditions in this country than we have yet had, but I think WE HAVE GOT TO FACE THE FACT THAT SUCH AN INCREASE IN GOVERNMENT CONTROL IS NOW NECESSARY."

Dem. pres. Wilson (1913-21): “You are not here merely to make a living. YOU ARE HERE TO ENABLE THE WORLD TO LIVE MORE AMPLY..."

FDR’s “Second Bill of Rights” included the “right”: to “earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation”; of every family to a “decent home”; “to be free from economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment.” (Speech to Congress on 1/11/44)

LBJ’s Great Society spent trillions on those “rights.”

In fact, America’s semi-capitalist system provided those “rights” in such abundance that tens of millions of Europeans fled their welfare state nations to come here. But none of that matters to democrats. They will force us to accept their agenda:

Democrats dominate the major media.

How Americans saw the mainstream media (TV and print) election coverage in 2008:
-Rasmussen poll: 69% for Obama, 6% for McCain
-Pew Research poll: 67% for Obama, 11% for McCain
-Sacred Heart University poll: 68% for Obama, 9% for McCain
-Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll: 67% for Obama, 11% for McCain

U. of Cal. Department of Public Policy survey of journalists, nationwide: During the 2008 election 52% supported Obama, 19% McCain.

8/15/12 Rasmussen Poll: 59% of Likely U.S. Voters believe the media favored Obama, 18% Romney.

Number of Republican president candidates the New York Times endorsed since 1960? NONE.

The pro-democrat media has ten times more viewers than pro-Republican Fox News and democrats resent even that slight opposition to their dogma:
5/25/11 huffingtonpost.com: NBC Nightly News averaged 9.469 million viewers, ABC's World News 8.380 million; CBS Evening News 6.204 million; among cable networks, Fox News 2.556 million.

Democrats dominate the government K-12 “education” system.

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php… Top All-Time [political campaign] Donors, 1989-2012:
-The NEA (the biggest teachers’ union) gave $43,613,263: 71% to democrats, 5% to Republicans.
-The AFT (NY’s teachers’ union) gave $34,698,466: 86% to democrats, 0% to Republicans.

They dominate the universities.

3/29/05 Washington Post: “College faculties, long assumed to be a liberal bastion, lean further to the left than even the most conspiratorial conservatives might have imagined, a new study says.”
-72% of higher education teachers are liberal, 15% conservative
-50% identified themselves as democrat, 11% republican
-At elite schools: 87% are liberal, 13% conservative.
April 2012 report on American universities http://www.nas.org/images/documents/A_Cr...tence.pdf: “In some areas it [liberal dominance] is so extreme that it amounts to virtual exclusion of any but left-of-center faculty members.”

5/20/12 L. A. Times: “At the University of California at Berkeley the ratio of Democrats to Republicans even in the hard sciences had grown to 10 to 1 in 2004, many times what it was 30 years ago...” “In the humanities and social sciences the ratios were 17 to 1 and 21 to 1, respectively.”

They dominate Hollywood, ipso facto -- no documentation required.

They dominate government unions:
10/21/10 Wall Street Journal: The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees is the biggest outside spender of the 2010 elections. It gave 0% to Republicans between 1989 and 2012.

The result of this pervasive, relentless dominance?

-2/4/10 Gallup poll: 61% of liberals have a positive view of socialism.

-6/2/11 Gallup poll: 71% of democrats favor re-distributing wealth.

-9/6-9/2012 http://www.gallup.com/poll/157481/majori: Those who want more government control over us: Republicans 15%; Independents, 29%; Democrats 67%.

-Now they have national health care, the foundation of all welfare and socialist states.

And now Obama will appoint progressives to the Supreme Court.
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We are not longer a Republic, just as Ben Franklin predicted: "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."

We’re now a democracy, about which the Founders observed:

Thomas Jefferson: "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”

Ben Franklin: "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.”

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02-14-2013, 04:30 PM
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There is no reason to change the constitution. There's a reason why we created the ability to pass amendments.

Executive orders on the other hand...

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02-14-2013, 04:30 PM
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The constitution rules
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02-14-2013, 04:30 PM
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Absolutely not.

We need to be sure we protect it, not poison it. The Constitution is the fabric of our country.
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02-14-2013, 04:30 PM
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No.
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02-14-2013, 04:30 PM
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It is time to cleanse Congress. It they can't hold up their end of the Contract (Constitution) then they must be fired or jailed.
You don't throw out the Constitution because the govt is corrupt, you throw out the govt.
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02-14-2013, 04:30 PM
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Without slavery, capitalism failed. It's inevitable.

Economic history is unfolding exactly as Marx predicted from the inexorable laws of capitalist accumulation.
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02-14-2013, 04:30 PM
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Capitalism redistributes wealth through excessive price markups, anti-compete agreements to match prices across a broad range of industries, price locking, interest and many other mechanisms. As, inevitably, there is no choice but to trade your individual resources at a substantial loss to feed the beast, one has all of their wealth stolen from them by the economic system.
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02-14-2013, 04:30 PM
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You have proven yourself adept at cutting and pasting from other posts by idiots. Congratulations.

I think that all you have proven is that smart, educated people tend to be Democrats.

By thy way, those so-called quotes from Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson are all fictional.
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02-14-2013, 04:30 PM
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Absolutely NOT! It can be amended. What we're doing now -- Despotism by Executive Order -- is madness. And Obama is, by no means, the first. We haven't had a Constitutionally adherent president for over a century, IMHO.

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By the way, per your answer to my recent question regarding mega-cities: I do not agree with the concept of tiny living spaces which is exactly why I believe we must build UP instead of OUT all the time. And I've lived in some of the tiny spaces you mentioned, though in Asia. Since the world around was suited to the situation, it sort of worked. I really wanted to get outside a lot, though; I must say.

We'll only be forced to live in cramped spaces if we breed like bunnies and start families at 14 yrs old like many of my tenants (not exaggerating!).

As to the cars... hm... I grew up on a dealership and came to see cars as an aggravation and necessary evil. They're a pile of metal whether the priciest luxury/sport or the cheapest Yugo. If it does its job, fine. If not, what a pain.

In vertical cities, we need neither public transport nor a billion cars as a person can use the elevator for half the trip and walk or bike the rest of the trip. Many times, one need never go outside into the weather.
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