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Wars/conflicts in the middle east and africa whats your views?
02-16-2013, 09:06 PM
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Wars/conflicts in the middle east and africa whats your views?
I'd like to hear form god hating secularists, god agnostic, tolereant "respect" socialists, libetarians, social conservatives and economic non libetarian conservatives on a number of conflicts and to provide their insight into them, a lot of people (who comment on my questions) are less informed than me (mainly because their a member of some special intrest sect/relgion) but often one or two actually do bring fresh evidence or perspective to the table beyond left/right, libetarian/authoritarian cleashes, in particular I would like to know who the rebels in central african republic are and what they were trying to establish (Pro secularism, pro christain, pro islamic, pro socilaist, pro conservative or if they had a pro or anti western agenda, because the media simply avoids to tell us what the 2 ideologies in this conflict where so I have NO position on this conflict as no one has given some info on its reasons).

Libya: Initially I was anti gidaffi but evidence linking the que to american desire to have oil exports remain tied to the dollar rather than go to the euro have led me to question it, also he has been replaced by racists and people who unlike gaddafi do not help the poor, he was far from a saint and in the end deserved to go but what they have now is worse.

Afghanistan: Again left with a puppet of the west who is a technocrat but in this case he is surely better than an alqaeda leader

Mali: It seems the local people support the french intervention therefore so do I but it seems a little neo colonial.

Egypt: I support morsi as he was democraticaly elected in free and fair elections and his controversial intial proposals have been proven to be justified as the judiciary allowed their bias to show with their pro mubarak ruling. He was trying precisely to reform and bring in democratic judges who adhere to the rule of law, he may not, again be perfect but who is? And it seems the left in america are engaging in culture imperialism by saying "oh look a big group (but ultimately a minority" are making a lot of noise, lets go with the minority" no better than when the right used the CIA to do horrible things in chilie and Nicaragua which most, sane republicans now apologize for. You have elections then you have to abide by them, short of a regime which is TERRORIZIG its own people, in africa homosexuality is banned, that is their culture and we should tolerate it but not actually the killing of people, just their imprisionment as the right to life/freedom from violence should trump a countries right to cultural democracy, anything MORE than that standard is cultural imperalism. The left now does what it moaned about the right doing.

SAUDI ARABIA: clearly a puppet of the west and an anti democratic society they should allow the vote to women but a ban on nuidty etc should stand if thats what they vote for, the king needs to stand down and let free and fair elections go ahead and short of al qaeda or neo nazis winning the west should respect the election, even if a moderate sharia law proponent wins (without the arms being chopped off and stoning of women bit).

So tell me where I am being too pro or anti muslim, where I am being too leftist or rightist, knock your self out but please some knowledge on the central african republic situation would be nice. Just like a mason who tried to tell me "your not a member blah blah" well one doesnt need to be to read their own books, literature stands on its own (and his defiance in that question just summed up the statement that most jewish, christian and muslims maons are not even aware of the bit in pikes book where he scorns lower ranked members and non masons alike as being worthy only of "being decived") I laugh at some of the crazies who come on whilst appreciating the few sane folks who take the time to comment, lets see which pro alqaeda or pro islamophobic people this question fluses out and how many impartial historians contribute, hope for more of the latter!

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02-16-2013, 09:14 PM
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