is that true ............?

[Angie]

1/29/2013 | folhapress 20:41 the newspaper "The Sunday Times" apologized on Tuesday (29) the Jewish leaders by a charge on the last Sunday in a critical tone to the actions of Israel to isolate Palestinian territories.

Design by Gerald Scarfe shows the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, by building a wall. Between the bricks, appear dead Palestinians. Below the caption "Israeli Elections".
The cartoonist illustrated the cement in blood-red. The building is called the West Bank Wall, erected by Israel with the official justification to protect Jewish settlers.

The cartoon was published on Holocaust Day, which remembers the extermination of Jews in World War II, and led to protests in the United Kingdom.
In the afternoon, the editor of the "Sunday Times", Martin Ivens, received Jewish leaders in the Newsroom and apologized for the episode.

He qualified as "inexcusable" the fact that the design has been published on the date that remembers the extermination of Jews in World War II.

Yesterday, the owner of the media group that publishes the "Sunday Times", Rupert Murdoch, apologized on Twitter and described the charge as "grotesque" and "offensive.
- OK is that true- and even if it is true then why when they drew Mohammed and we as Muslims protested they gave us the cold shoulder and said it is freedom of speech
even if it is freedom of speech is that even etiquette or polite ?
does freedom of speech mean to harm others ? in their believes and their religion and be racist ?
does freedom mean taking freedom from those who don't agree with you?
well they don't behead innocent people
it is their laws when living in a country yo should agree to the laws right ?
but if you have laws will you do it on some and not on others?
and you want us to respect !
@acid : it hurts us muslims we treat our prophet as no one we know he is in a higher place when people curse him it feels like cursing us + our families +our past +our future+ our present +..etc
so it hurts us a lot but if we can't do anything we have no power to take our right in that we leave everything on allah ,he promised us that he and his messengers will win !
anyway you are totally wrong ... i have watched muslims go on protests and islamists go on protests and there is a huge difference ... usually when muslims go on protests there will be christians but this is not the problem some muslims don't know that harming others and destroying buildings that doesn't belong to you is harram (forbidden) ,, so they will usually do bad things
as for Islamist when they go protesting it will be peacfully n destroying anywhere
when the thing about Mohammed (pbuh) happened Islamist not all of them didn't go protesting as they know it is with no value
as for other Muslims the
actually guys i'm not that patient to go on an argument over and over and over it is not my thing!
when i'm right and i ow that you misunderstand and i try to explain and you want to misunderstand more ... i;m not the kind to be presistant and still want to explain although i wish i will require that trait near in the future because it i my duty
but when i see a lot of people who argue in things they misunderstand and it is wrong and they are arrogant and don't want to listen or see or know WHEN THEY ARE WRONG! they give me the feeeling what is the point of this if he wanted to know he would have like others already
and i'm a woman and i don't know in which way you think that women have no freedom and i really am confused about this there is nothing i don't (freedom i mean)
but you hold on topics which is valid and not true which you manipulate so that you please yourself
and you not respecting muhammed will return to you in the end but we ask not to hurt us
an
and as you said we are a group of people like any other group then why treat us so differently
you say we kill innocent you mean in wars ?
if in wars i don't think that the opponent wanted peace and didn't want to kill me .. if he want to kill me then he is not innocent !
and if you mean about what happened before it isn't like yo are sure that who did that was a muslim!
this whole thing was wrong!
if you think Muslims are low we Muslims think of those who think that we are low that they are the low ones
we respect who respect use ... this is the trait of the Arabs
you treat me good i will put you on my head and treat you the best ... you treat me bad with no respect i have my ways to defend myself :'/ and each one differ
you say Muslims kills ? so as Christians , Jews , atheist Buddhists and others !
then why don't you attack them like us ? oh wait a second because you are one of them !
so you will close your eyes to your allies huh ?!

[Ayubowan]

Muslims will protest over Muhammad cartoons but do nothing when Saudi Arabia beheads people

Funny

[Colin]

There is a most lamentable tendency to equate criticism of the present Israeli government's policies with support of/indifference to/denial of/ the abominable atrocities perpetrated on the Jews in the past.

[Acid2]

I know TST published a cartoon of Netanyahu but there wasn't anything anti-sematic about it, as far as I can tell, nor any need, therefore, for anyone to apologize for it. I don't know if anyone did, though.

The reason why Muslims grievance over cartoons isn't taken seriously is that Muslims can't protest peacefully, like civilized people do. They have to attack embassies and murder innocent people that had nothing to do with the cartoons. Can't you see the difference?

Drawing a caricature of Mohammed hurts no one alive and that's clearly not the same as as encouraging a second holocaust and looking for the extermination of the Jewish people (which the TST didn't do), which is genuinely offensive and hurtful and an act condemnable. There is no reason for anyone to respect a person who preaches hate for non-Muslims and calls them vile animals and says they're fuel for the hell-fire. Such a man rightly deserves whatever's hurled in his general direction.

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We too have feelings. Our feelings get hurt because of Muslims venerating a man who calls us vermin and vile animals. Just as you venerate Mohammed, we venerate freedom and it's deeply offensive for your to ask that we censor our self for your sake. There is no reason we should. Your religions don't get to trump our freedom. There is no reason we should tolerate a religion that doesn't know what the word means. Muslims are no more important than any other group of people, despite what your imaginary friend says. Hurt feelings don't give anyone a right to murder innocent people. Even if you are peaceful, the argument still stands that your feelings are not more important that anyone else's and you'd just have to deal with the way things are. Anyone that actually deserves respect usually gets it and it doesn't need to be asked for. Mohammed, again, deserves no respect.

Another things that's deeply offensive is you asking this question. Respect for religion and cartoons are more important to your people than innocent people being murdered by Islamist thugs. I don't see any Muslim doing anything about stuff like suicide bombings and the way women are treated by Islamist in Muslim nations... your most major concern is to some home make the rest of the world shut up and this stupid blasphemy nonsense and not any of the genuine human rights violations in your countries, against which you don't show the same level of outrage as against some silly cartoon. I think you'd have a better position to reason and negotiate with the world about this if you could first rid of the parasites in your countries who want to murder all the Infidels and teach children how to blow themselves up.

[Tomknight]

why not read'' sura 17:104 and thereafter allah said to the children of israel:[jews].: dwell securely in the promised land [israel] and when the last warning comes to past., we will gather you togather in a mingled crowd.;;;; also read sura 2:122 and 5"70 and sura 5:26 to just name a few.

[Nazneen]

We can draw who we want....why should we bow down to your demand

[rubusmubu]

Why is the “Muslims=others” factor important? I believe that this is related to the well-known psychological concept of “cognitive dissonance“. Cognitive (thought process) dissonance (tension) relates to the dynamic of the sharp discomfort we experience when we carry two conflicting thoughts in our minds at the same time. This dissonance increases when the importance of the subject increases, or when the two thoughts conflict more sharply, or when we are unable to explain away the conflict. For instance, smokers have to find all kinds of reasons to explain away what they know to be an unhealthy habit. To release the dissonance, we have to either change our behavior, justify our behavior by changing one of the conflicting cognitions, or justify by adding additional cognitions.

In his widely acclaimed books on Muslims in the West, Tariq Ramadan has written about being the “other”. He emphasizes a Muslim's responsibility to his community, whether it be Islamic or not. He criticizes the “us vs. them” mentality that some Muslims advocate against the West. He argues that European Muslims' reliance on an “external” Islam, fraught with cultural baggage, leaves them feeling inadequate in their own faith, leading to alienation from the larger society.

Ramadan also touches upon the crux of what I have mentioned here, about misplaced Western perceptions of Muslims, due to a community that has done a terrible job in representing itself. A community that has mixed cultural baggage with Islam, a community that has been overly defensive, and a community that has not sufficiently engaged with its majority hosts, the wider non-Muslim society.


Muslims should be allowed to commit themselves within society and to act in favour of human solidarity. This also means that Muslims can be engaged in social as well as political and economic activities. This is why, both at local and national levels, their commitment as Muslims and citizens is imperative for it is the sole way of completing and perfecting their Faith and the essential Message of their Religion. The social space, with its laws and customs, should permit them to attain this. [Ramadan, as quoted in Reading Tariq Ramadan: Political Liberalism, Islam, and "Overlapping Consensus"]