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Can a religion suffer from bad Karma?
02-28-2013, 10:55 AM
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Can a religion suffer from bad Karma?
Since it is a proven fact that both Christianity and Islam have done much in their history and today to destroy other cultures and walks of life to further their own agendas, will it be the Karma backlash that finally destroys both of them? Does the rule of Karma work the same as for the individual for organizations such as these? I hope so.

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02-28-2013, 10:58 AM
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Karma isn't real, the only justice we have is the justice we make ourselves.

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02-28-2013, 11:07 AM
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Christianity isn't suffering ,they continue with their money making book while we have to debate with their willful ignorance .
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02-28-2013, 11:17 AM
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If it does then the Christian Church is in BIG trouble
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02-28-2013, 11:17 AM
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Karma, per se, is individual, but I think the Catholic church is beginning to reap what it has sown over the centuries. There has been a steady decline of people applying to the religious life, and thousands of young people leave the church every year. This new pope isn't helping any either. There is a prophesy by a 12th century monk that, if correct, basically proclaims this current pope to be the last pope of the Catholic Church. What exactly that will mean for the church remains to be seen.
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02-28-2013, 11:23 AM
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Spreading the hate again I see.
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02-28-2013, 11:33 AM
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i beg of you to please expand on what christianity has done to "wipe out ways of life"
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02-28-2013, 11:38 AM
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I do think there is both individual and group karma, so yes, I think it could apply to religions as well as nations and other large groups of people. The individual effects of that karma may be greater or lesser depending on how big a part that person played in the groups good or bad deeds, but what goes around eventually comes around. I don't think of karma as a literal concept, ie: you did X, so now X will happen to you. But rather if you do bad things, you can expect to deal with bad consequences from those bad actions.
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02-28-2013, 11:45 AM
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Adam. since you have not obviously pursued the study of the History of Europe and Asia-Minor, as well as the Americas please, allow ME to educate you.

A readers Digest version of the History of the subjugation of the indigenous cultures of Western Europe, Asia-Minor and North and South America. The Church began it's "assimilation by conquest" by initially conquering the tribal areas of Gaul, Britain and the Iberian peninsula in the 5th and 6th century AD. This conquest proved to be a very mild one and most of the cultures survived the invasions relatively unscathed. Then we enter the Crusades period, wherein the Christian authorities invaded the region around the Eastern Mediterranean known as The Holy Land in an effort to dislodge the Heresy known as Islam, again with failure. the inhabitants of the region clung to their Faith too strongly and were too strong, militarily and managed to thwart most of the invasion's efforts. The Christian authorities returned to Europe, especially Western and northern Europe and conquered ALL of the Tribes of the region and imposed very strict Catholic (Christian) law onto the inhabitants of those regions. The Celtic empire which existed since before the Roman Empire and which had managed to survive and rejuvenate in Northwestern France and the British Isles was thoroughly decoimated and the culture and Religion of the inhabitants was eliminated almost in its entirety. What remained was bits and scraps of the culture disguised as folk stories and fables. Then came the second set of crusades and the Inquistition which originally targetted Christian heretics but later included those who manage to evead the previous onslaught and managed to hold on to some vestiges of their practices. The Inquistion (also referred to as The Burning Times) executed large numbers of people on the pretense that they were practising Witchcraft, heresy and other "crimes against the Church", even though there were no ACTUAL crimes ever committed. By actual crimes I mean, theft, murder, insurrection, things like that. The Sacred sites of the inhabitants were co-opted and the property given tothe churches who constructed Religious edifices upon those scared sites inorder to both coerce the local inhabitants to join the church and to obliterate any signs that there WERE other Religions which existed in those places.

About this time the AGE of Exploration had just begun and the discovery of south Africa and the Americas had begun. IN the Americas, under the guise of the political reigns of Spain but with the blessings and guidance of the Spanish Inquisition, the indigenous tribes of Coastal Africa and the Americas were decimated, looted, plundered and out right muyrdered with no sanctuary given whatsoever. The vast social network and culture of entire empires such as the Maya, Inca, and the tribes of the southern present day United States all but dissappeared. The Religions of those people was almost totally extinguished and only smatterrings of it remained, hidden and/or disguised as local Christian customs. The Africans, who had been kidnapped from their home continetn and rendered into slaves also managed to keep a smattering of their culture and Religion by similarly disguising them as a form of Christianity. The TRUE religions and their practices became lost through the subsequent homogonization with Christian practices.

In Europe and during this period, the last vestiges of European "Pagan" practices was being "mopped up" and the last vestiges of those Religions was eliminated entirely. the Pagan Religions which exist today , in all likelihood, are NOT the same Religions which existed prior to the "Christian" invasion and conquering period. It is suspected that most if not ALL of the writings and other forms of documenting of the practices of those Religions and cultures still exist somewhere in the vast archives of the Catholioc Church in the Vatican City.

Now to the futher developments of European "exploration and conquering" of native cultures. As Europe continued its exploration of the world, the native aboriginal cultures of the South pacific were systematically looted, plundered and conquered and forced to abandon their culture and Religion in favor of Christianity. The Hawaiian kindgom was totally absorbed and Christianized by the end of the 18th century with New Zealand and Australia not far behind. the Rest of the tiny island nations of the South Pacific fell and disappeared before anyone outside of the region even knew they existed, in many cases it took only a matter of months to obliterate entire cultures.

Now this History does NOT address the civilizations of Rome and Greece and Egypt as they were mostly destroyed from within with marginal influence from the Christian churches and a significant influence from the Islamic Religion. The additional demise of the indigenous cultures and Religions of Asia Minor and southern Asia is attributable to the influences of Islam a
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