Peggy McIntosh Male privilege checklist - are these still relevent?

[PrettyLittleLiar]

1. My odds of being hired for a job, when competing against female applicants,
are probably skewed in my favor. The more prestigious the job, the larger the
odds are skewed.

In my experience, men are still seen as being intrinsically more capable than women. A female CV needs to be quite outstanding....

3. I am far less likely to face sexual harassment at work than my female coworkers are.

4. If I do the same task as a woman, and if the measurement is at all subjective,
chances are people will think I did a better job.


6. If I have children and a career, no one will think I’m selfish for not staying at
home.

7. My elected representatives are mostly people of my own sex. The more
prestigious and powerful the elected position, the more this is true.

8. When I ask to see “the person in charge,” odds are I will face a person of my
own sex. The higher-up in the organization the person is, the surer I can be.


17. If I’m not conventionally attractive, the disadvantages are relatively small and
easy to ignore.


20. My ability to make important decisions and my capability in general will never
be questioned depending on what time of the month it is.

21. I will never be expected to change my name upon marriage or questioned if I
don’t change my name.

22. The decision to hire me will never be based on assumptions about whether or
not I might choose to have a family sometime soon.

23. If I have a wife or live-in girlfriend, chances are we’ll divide up household
chores so that she does most of the labor, and in particular the most repetitive
and unrewarding tasks.

24. If I have children with a wife or girlfriend, chances are she’ll do most of the
childrearing, and in particular the most dirty, repetitive and unrewarding parts of
childrearing.

25. If I have children with a wife or girlfriend, and it turns out that one of us needs
to make career sacrifices to raise the kids, chances are we’ll both assume the
career sacrificed should be hers.

26. Magazines, billboards, television, movies, pornography, and virtually all of
media are filled with images of scantily-clad women intended to appeal to me
sexually. Such images of men exist, but are rarer.

27. In general, I am under much less pressure to be thin than my female
counterparts are. If I am fat, I probably suffer fewer social and economic
consequences for being fat than fat women do.
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EDS - Hah, EvilTwin. Could not resist.

And I do believe these are true to a greater or lesser degree. I deliberately removed the ones I felt were not relevant, or that you had already covered.

And @KINKY, you clearly are not familiar with my posts if you think I am a 'poor helpless female". This post was part of a larger conversation between ET and I. but I can see why you got that impression. Just chalk this up to another 'he said, she said' argument between fems and anti-fems.

[Metalhead498]

Only 27 and 21.everything else has bern disproven/isnt relevent.

[Kinky]

Oh look at me I am a poor defencless female life is so hard for me because of my vagina and things!

This list is so patronizing. She write these in the 50's? Almost all of these are outdated or are a double edged sword for the guys as well.

25 is a good example: "If I have children with a wife or girlfriend, and it turns out that one of us needs
to make career sacrifices to raise the kids, chances are we’ll both assume the
career sacrificed should be hers." Yeah but if they break up who is going to not see the kid and have to pay support?

I am a woman and this sort of feminist BS frustrates me more then MRA' types whining. No wait, this is what that is MRA style whining but with the added feminazi victim mentality. Gives me such a headache.

Edit: I actually kinda want to see the MRA's come up with their own list I bet they could get twice as many, they are dedicated you know!

[My Evil Twin]

good for you.
i started on 10 for a reason...
BUT, 7 is y'all's own fault. RUN FOR OFFICE in equal numbers and you will win in greater than equal numbers ...
and i think 4 depends on the sex COMPARISON of worker and judge of the work performed...
20 is scientifically proven to be FACT, in various ways, sorry biological fact can't be a "privilege".
21 is getting less true every day. while I will NOT marry a woman unwilling to take my name, about half the "men" on this site say they have no problem with it.
22. NOR can we take 3 months off to 'get into the flow' with a new kid.
23. shame on you for putting up with that, "behavior rewarded will be repeated".
24. again, shame on you. YOU accept and reward behavior, it will be repeated.
25. not so much anymore, "who makes the most money ?" is a very important variable.
26. "it is good to be a man in a man's world."
27. when was the last time you walked through a walmart ? there are 300 pounders EVERYWHERE of both sexes, i think that fat men are as discriminated against as fat women. it is the last acceptable "group" that can be "hated" without recrimination.

as i explained to you in the one you gave the long answer, a feminist answered a "male privilege" question with this list, if it is an acceptable list to answer it is an acceptable list to "hit y'all with".

[discouraged]

I think some may be true in some cases. Others are inconsequential, or they are as much a result of women's actions as of men's.

Of course there are female privileges also:

1. I have a much lower chance of being murdered than a man.
2. I have a much lower chance of being driven to successfully commit suicide than a man.
3. I have a lower chance of being a victim of a violent assault than a man.
4. I have probably been taught that it is acceptable to cry.
5. I will probably live longer than the average man.
6. Most people in society probably will not see my overall worthiness as a person being exclusively tied to how high up in the hierarchy I rise.
7. I have a much better chance of being considered to be a worthy mate for someone, even if I’m unemployed with little money, than a man.
8. My chance of suffering a work-related injury or illness is significantly lower than a man’s.
9. My chance of being killed on the job is a tiny fraction of a man’s.
10. If I was born in North America since WWII, I can be almost certain that my genitals were not mutilated soon after birth, without anesthesia.
11. If I interact with other people’s children — particularly people I don’t know very well — I do not have to worry much about the interaction being misinterpreted.
12. I am less likely to be shamed for being sexually inactive than a man.
13. From my late teens through menopause, for most levels of sexual attractiveness, it is easier for me to find a sex partner at my attractiveness level than it is for a man.
14. My role in my child’s life is generally seen as more important than the child’s father’s role.

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And...
Research shows that elementary school teachers give girls better grades than boys, even when they perform worse on standardized tests. Women benefit from women-only scholarships. Women are a majority on college campuses, and therefore earn more degrees than men. Government assistance is available specifically for women entrepreneurs. As a result of these pro-women policies, young women out-earn their male peers.