This House believes that the EU has benefited Europe points for debate?

[Alice]

I can't find any points for the debate topic This House believes that the EU has benefited Europe. Could you give me 3 for opp and prep?

[RJ2K1]

No internal war. Jobs for members, More women for your buck .

[Kenny]

Rubbish

[GriffCo]

Loss of sovereignty
Loss of national traditions and identity
Loss of ability to make our own trade deals
Loss of £53 Millions pounds a day
Loss of ability to make laws and regulations

Gained over 4 million more mouths to feed, clothe, provide health care etc
Gained the ability to give exiting politicians and primministers a guaranteed job for life
Gained an undemocratic, unelected, self imposed foreign rule over Westminster
Gained over bearing political correctness & OTT liberalism
Gained A way of driving down national wages and living standards

It's estimated our inclusion into the EU and consequently the single market adds some £30Billion to the British economy. It's estimated EU inclusion cost Britain annually, including membership fees, damage to industry, regulation, red tape, social secuirty, housing etc... Upwards of £100 Billion.

So because of the EU we don't have internal war? Your saying explicitly that without the EU Europe would have continued on its pre-1945 direction? It's quite frankly a disgusting outlook on Europeans. I don't understand how people think we have avoided internal conflict. Look at What's been going on between Ireland and Britian. Look at what happened in Kosovo. If may not have been on your door step but it still happened. So your happy for internal conflict, which apparently the EU prevents, just as long as it doesn't come any where near you.

When asking yourself the EU question, try and put yourself in the shoes of the unemployed an poor. Look at it from the perspective of the people who have lost jobs due to carbon taxes running industry out of the EU. Try looking at the Greeks, trying looking at those who have a daily struggle running businesses under contradictory and burdensome regulation. It's easy for Richard Branson to say stay in the EU, he gets first pick at hundreds of thousands of cheap Eu migrants to choose from to pay under minimum wage. Look at the people who live in large rural houses away from the jobless masses and flood of unskilled EU migrants.

The only people i find to be pro-EU are The Rich, powerful, over bearing liberals or those who have suffered government rhetoric or media drivel for some years and struggle to see the merits of the opinions held by their contemporaries.

I believe the majority of The British, althought may want a new EU settlement will chose to leave the EU when it's seen we are unable to repatriate powers of sany such importance to satisfy our needs.