Have desperate men and the Western media made women delusional about their looks?

[Zizou]

I've been on various internet forums, sometimes use facebook etc (to browse rather than post as it's essentially an awful site). All over the place I see women who are by any objective measure fat and/or ugly talking themselves up like they're models. I know someone will say 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' but trust me, no man could be attracted to these particular women.

However, said women seem to think they're gorgeous, as I said. I put this down to two key things:

1) Desperate men. So many men online will message every woman they can without judging much on looks etc. Men aren't picky online and just looking for whatever bit of fun they can get. This leads women to believe that they must be absolute stunners because they're receiving 1000 messages in a day, despite the fact that they look like a bulldog chewing a wasp;

2) Western media and society. These days we have become saturated with all sorts of shite - models displayed everywhere and garbage 'here today gone tomorrow' music like Rhianna, Lady Gaga etc. Women tend to be the main ones who buy into this celebrity culture (many men do too, but it seems like the vast majority of women are into it) and they start believing they can look like these women because of the 'girl power!' messages which are spread throughout Western media. This leads to a sense of self-entitlement amongst these women.

Both factors lead to many women believing they're much more attractive than they are and producing massive lists of criteria for what they expect in men. There's also the problem that men will generally have sex with any woman who 'puts out' (even if she's ugly and irritating) so women mistakenly confuse their cheapness with being attractive to men.

I've seen some really hideous, obese women talk like dirt to men who were clearly out of their league in both looks and personality. They do this because in their deluded minds the man is beneath them and they can do better.

So, to return to the main question, have desperate men and the Western media inflated many women's egos to unrealistic levels?

One final thing: I know only too well that many feminists will reply to this in a defensive manner. They will say I am a misogynist, underrating these women etc. You're all extremely predictable so I just wouldn't bother even replying if that's the best you can do. I've made some very substantial points here and if the best you can do is to abuse me then we all know you're the ones with the issues, not me. Like I say, any ad hominems will be predictable so just don't even bother.
And before someone says 'you're bitter because you can't find a woman' - I'm in a relationship with a woman who is lovely both inside and out. So don't bother with that either.
"sense of self-entitlement"

That should read 'sense of entitlement'. Apologies. It's 7am here.
Tim - that's nonsense. As I said, I've seen women being complete bitches to men who are clearly out of their league. Men who weren't even trying to get in their pants. They just seem to think they're better than people who they clearly aren't.
Rawr. That's one of the biggest fallacies going, and is spouted by uninformed people like you constantly. In fact Western society panders to most women and makes many feel better (not all, it's not a blanket statement) through the power of feminism and sisterhood. That's much more powerful than feeling inferior to some anorexic model.

Unlike you reading crap on vogue's website, I actually study sociology so you can stick your clueless 'knowledge' where the sun doesn't shine. People who are clued into sociology know that what you've said is generally a myth.
Jakezira - good post.

Freethinker - exactly. Your name suits you.

We even see evidence of this delusion and deceit on this very question. Rawr's answer shows that she believes this feminist myth that women are suffering body image issues on a massive scale in Western society. In fact this issue is minor at best and the much larger factor is, as I have said, sisterhood inflating women's egos.

Self-pitying feminists constantly roll out this tripe.
As for Disney - yeah, good shout Jakezila. Makes women believe they are princesses who deserve to be swept up by a prince who adores them and will do anything for them. Utter tripe in the context of 21st century western society.
Austin - no real motivation. Just noticed this place is seriously unbalanced in favour of feminist theory.

[Austin]

Possibly. What's your motivation anyways?

[Shining]

I see a sense of entitlement among both genders everyday. I think it's less of a gender issue and more of a generational problem. People have abandoned morals and lost decency and substance. The truth is, who cares what they look like if they have the personality of a rock? There are just as many desperate women as men. And both genders are full of egotistical people. The media definitely doesn't help, but they don't have to choose to buy into it. People like that have completely missed the purpose of life. They believe that there worth is based on how others perceive/react to them. When their inner qualities are what truly matter most. The most important thing, in my opinion, is how God sees you.

In spite of living in an immoral world full of superficial people, a meaningful life is possible.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20130401/

[Jakezila]

Agreed, but you left out Disney. I see this stuff everyday myself. I don't plan on having children, so I'm content on cracking a beer and watching the place burn down. Of course the feminists will go down with the ship claiming they had no part in the matter.

[FreeThinker]

Both of the factors that you mention tend to feed into the natural self-serving attributional bias of the women in question to give them an inflated sense of self-esteem. People of either gender seem all too willing to believe compliments, when a sober look at the evidence would indicate them as mere flattery.