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Does the 2nd Amendment say guns should be regulated or militias?
04-27-2013, 09:33 AM
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Does the 2nd Amendment say guns should be regulated or militias?

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04-27-2013, 09:40 AM
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Militias were regulated by states, not feds. That is clear.

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04-27-2013, 09:52 AM
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The words "A well Regulated Militia" is in regards to an military officer being in command of the militia. There are many sub sections on the subject and many documents that come after diffing it.


Verb
mi·li·tia
noun \mə-ˈli-shə\
Definition of MILITIA
1
a : a part of the organized armed forces of a country liable to call only in emergency
b : a body of citizens organized for military service
2
: the whole body of able-bodied male citizens declared by law as being subject to call to military service

regulated past participle, past tense of reg·u·late (Verb)
1 Control or maintain the rate or speed of (a machine or process) so that it operates properly.
2 Control or supervise (something, esp. a company or business activity) by means of rules and regulations.

in·fringe
verb \in-ˈfrinj\
transitive verb
1
: to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another <infringe a patent>
2
obsolete : defeat, frustrate
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04-27-2013, 09:55 AM
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Militias.
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04-27-2013, 09:56 AM
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No
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04-27-2013, 10:10 AM
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In the late 18th century "well regulated" meant "well supplied". But even if that weren't the case, USCA Title 10, section 311 clearly identifies every able bodied male, 17 and over, as automatically part of the Militia. So I've seen a few very surprised faces when people snydely ask if I'm part of the militia and I say "why yes... as a matter of fact I am".
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04-27-2013, 10:17 AM
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Neither. There are so many recorded writings and quotations from the time period when our constitution was created that it is not possible for one to misinterpret exactly what the intent of the 2nd amendment actually was. Current attempts to reinterpret its meaning will be the cause of future, more dramatic problems that today are unforeseeable. But for the liberal politician, it is the immediate issue that can be of benifit re-election.

First some understanding... A well regulated militia, is referring to the American public. The American public as a well regulated militia itself. That they can choose to organize as a group is irrelevant. The citizenry, as a well regulated militia defending their property, the state, and the constitution when all else fails. Well regulated in the way that families teach the responsibilities and obligations associated with owning a firearm. This includes the possible problems that such responsibility can come with. It refers to the citizens and the values, social morays, and conscience they keep as a whole that regulated their society. That they as a group do not change their mind when ever a major emergency occurs or emotions strain basic rules that govern all. Example - murder is still wrong. That it is necessary for the security of a free state that these people remain armed as a threat to a government or foreign entity that may at times, although rarely, might contemplate violating the rights of that state or its citizens. That these rights shall not be infringed... This does not mean it can be infringed upon "if" the situation is bad enough. That these rights can be manipulated and reduced during a major emergency. Some emergencies will demand that no restrictions ever be placed. Shall not be infringed means, shall not be infringed. Where is the misinterpretation here?

I could cut and paste literally thousands of context filled quotations and letters from many of the forefathers supporting this perspective. How, today, so many fail to take these into account is beyond my comprehension.

“On every question of construction (of the meaning of the Constitution), let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates and, instead of trying what meaning can be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed". Thomas Jefferson, letter to Justice William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p 322.

The real problem no one seems to want to admit are the mentally ill that walk our streets freely every day. Free to refuse their medications or not get treated at all. Thank the ACLU for their efforts in mental health freedom. Our real problem is mentally ill people getting a gun. That all three of these shooters were untreated is the real, preventable tragedy here. And not a sole, no politician, no media outlet is daring to have that conversation. Just ban the gun. As though mass murder were not.
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