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Why can't we Conservatives do a better job of expressing our concern for the down-trodden and impoverished?
04-28-2013, 08:44 PM
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Why can't we Conservatives do a better job of expressing our concern for the down-trodden and impoverished?
We have a problem showing that we do care about the poor.

The difference is that we disagree on what is considered Need.

I have very strong and distinct ideas about what it means to be impoverished and deserving of help.

When will we start showing our natural concern, that we help by choice, not by force?

Any ideas?

What is the difference between Needs and Wants to you, Democrats and Conservatives alike?

Do we have a Responsibility to provide for Everyone's Needs? Is that a Right?

And do the people being provided for have any Responsibility in the system?

Thanks.
Thanks @Griffin. Empowerment. That is what I was looking for.

My 26 year old daughter, mother of 3 of my grandkids called again this week. She's $300 short for rent...again.

I wanted to talk about how to prevent this from happening over and over, I wanted to get to the root of the problem.

She wanted me to just send her a check.

I think you have hit upon the Answer.

Liberals want to just give her the check.

I want her to stop spending $100/month on smokes and $200/month on nails, hair, and Saturday nights with the girls.

I want to empower her to be responsible for herself and her kids.

She just wants me to send her another check.

And her first response when I even try to suggest talking about how to solve this problem is, "You just don't want to help!" followed by tears, then, "You have the money, you can afford it."

She doesn't realize that I'm trying to Empower her, so that by the time she is my age, she'll be in a position to HEL
...to HELP her kids when they need it.

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04-28-2013, 08:46 PM
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I only care about people who add to the greatness of America, not those who are a constant drain on the rest of us.

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04-28-2013, 08:49 PM
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Our problem is ENTIRELY that roughly 95% of "the media'" LIES about everything we say and do.

OUR policies have wildly SUCCEEDED in delivering millions OUT of poverty and ALL Democrats fight to prevent ever allowing them to be done again.
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04-28-2013, 09:02 PM
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Tough to get an answer when the left generally hate the wealthy and industrious.Propaganda of the media says you must want everything that someone else has because you deserve it just by breathing the same air as the rich and hard-working.
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04-28-2013, 09:15 PM
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A big part of the image problem would be the baldfaced lies told by liberals. Repeat a lie often enough and people start to believe it. It's disgusting, and it's been a left wing tactic for years.

Conservatives think everyone can be successful and self-dependent with motivation and initiative. Liberals spin that idea around and suggest that conservatives don't give a rat's @ss about anyone because they refuse to hold your hand from cradle to grave. It's all b.s., of course. Conservatives believe in a safety net for those who need it, not for those who simply want it. Liberals believe in the latter. And the latter is why we're going bankrupt.
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04-28-2013, 09:19 PM
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the conservatives i know express a desire to help the down trodden quite well. the PAID conservative comentaters never ask critically important questions(that would bring out a different view than that of the liberals). everyone "needs food clothing and shelter". where does color tv, recreational drugs, booze, cigarets, cell phone, potatoe chips spending money, car or any of the rest of it become my responsibility.
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04-28-2013, 09:25 PM
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This is a tough one. As a nation of ONE we need to support each other. Greed and the "I need a giant flatscreen TV" sense in this country has turned us away from our obligations to our fellow human beings. The idea of what success is has been distorted from "doing what you love to do" to "the big giant house and garage full lf nice cars". Our morals in the past 30 years have gone down the pooper, in my opinion. It is quite a shame.
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04-28-2013, 09:34 PM
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I don't think that we have a problem showing that we care about the poor. It's the media, and the liberal left, that have a problem with our ideas. Empowerment is something that is huge in our party. Conservatives and Liberals alike want to help the poor but we go about it in different ways. Republicans call for programs that allow people to rise about their circumstances, whereas Democrats propose an ever-increasing Welfare State. These social programs, such as EBT cards for example, have become very bloated in my view. People abuse the system, and rather than using the dole to empower themselves to rise above, they instead utilize it to become more and more dependent. In my view, no, it is not the federal government's role to provide for everyone's needs. These issues should be left to the states, as the reserved powers in the 10th Amendment imply. However, the responsibility that we have, as Americans, is to promote programs that empower our citizens, instead of creating dependency. Liberals will claim that the funding to these social programs are necessary, and some of those claims may be valid. But with a deficit approaching $17 trillion dollars, it is obvious that the programs at the top are in desperate need of fiscal responsibility and reform.
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04-28-2013, 09:36 PM
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I am Individualist (for those who don't understand, for the individual). What I see is a vast Government that is so bloated with Money that the Federal Reserve supplies for anything they want with the taxpayer paying the interest on the balance since it will never be paid off. What a sweet deal for Federal Reserve Banks. So the Liberals in their great Wisdom, want to bring the great wealth to the lazy ner'do wells that whine gimme gimme gimme gimme I want more. It's sickening that these people think it's their right to get their nails done, get tattoos for their men and gold too, and have their cable tv to watch all day long in never never land.

I go to Church and we pass the plate and some of us pledge 10 percent of our income and we are small. We have a Mission Plan of 10 percent, It used to be bigger when we had more members, 23%. But people have gotten fat and lazy and don't want to go to Church anymore because they feel no responsibility for their fellow man. "The Government has programs for that"

So, you see, it's a catch 22. As long as the Government passes out free money to people that need to be taught to grow up and learn how to live, the public taxpayer will not be responsible.
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