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Why doesn't God present himself in a way that would be believable to non believers?
05-02-2013, 07:04 PM
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God does not exist.

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05-02-2013, 07:18 PM
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GOOD QUESTION.............//
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05-02-2013, 07:22 PM
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That is not possible for imaginary fairies.
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05-02-2013, 07:25 PM
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Why should God do cheap circus acts to prove he exists? God relies on blind faith for people to believe in him here and doesnt have anything to prove to us on earth. The day will come when we all will have to face him and then we will know for sure
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05-02-2013, 07:39 PM
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2. "How can you believe in God, when you can't see, hear, touch, smell, taste or even imagine what He is?"

Answer:
We know from the teachings of Muhammad, peace be upon him, that no one has ever actually seen God - at least not in this lifetime. Nor are we able to use our senses to make some kind of contact with Him. However, we are encouraged in Islam to use our senses and our common sense to recognize that all of this universe could not possibly come into existence on its own. Something had to design it all and then put it into motion. That is beyond our ability to do, yet it is something that we can understand.
We don't have to see an artist to recognize a painting, correct? So, if we see paintings without seeing artists painting them, in the same way, we can believe that Allah created everything without having to see Him (or touch, or hear, etc.).
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05-02-2013, 07:41 PM
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He did, for thirty three years until he died on a cross. Read the New Testament and decide for yourself if God made himself believable to you.
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05-02-2013, 07:44 PM
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Why doesn't God present himself in a way that would be believable to non believers?

If you read the bible there were times when he did manifest himself, yet non believers still didn't believe.


evidence for a god cannot be considered as authoritative because it does not match what science has discovered about reality.

Does not match what science has discovered about reality? You mean something can come from nothing? That's the best you got on the evolution theory?
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05-02-2013, 07:47 PM
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Okay so, supposedly you have this omnipotent, omniscience, omnipresent (which are paradoxes in and of themselves) being who can according to the Bible do anything and can manipulate time and space.

Not actually according to the Bible, but interpolations based on ambiguous statements in the Bible.

So my question is, if this God people claims exist is indeed all of these things that the Bible states he is, why doesn't he manifest himself or present himself in a way that would be believable to people who reject God claims?

The Bible does say that the creation does present sufficient evidence for one who is seeking to believe. Free will allows on to deny the evidence that is there so the failing is not Gods but mans.

Obviously the book that Christians claim to be the basis for their beliefs and evidence for a god cannot be considered as authoritative because it does not match what science has discovered about reality for example, the bat is a bird (Lev. 11:19, Deut. 14:11, 18)

If the Bible were originally written in English you would have a point. It was not, the Hebrew word translated "bird' literally means "flying creature" Bats are indeed flying creatures so your argument does not hold up to honest scrutiny, but rather reflects lazy scholarship.

The Bible does not claim to be evidence for God, it points the reader to look at nature for evidence of God. There are no serious contentions between empirical science and any statements made about the natural world in the Bible. Human interpolation upon the Bible may reflect logical fallacies but again this is human error not the bible you are arguing against. Most alleged contradictions are the product of confirmation bias rather than valid contradictions if one applies Aristotle's laws of non-contradiction and rhetoric when reading the Bible.

Basically none of our arguments holds up against honest scrutiny but rather reflect lazy scholarship. The Bible specifically calls upon the individual to examine and weigh the evidence before committing. That would suggest that honest scholarship is expected. In that case it is fully understandable why those practicing lazy scholarship would not find sufficient grounds to believe.
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05-02-2013, 08:02 PM
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tangible evidence

the bible is tangible you can see,touch,taste,hear the bible.

the whole point is will you believe it.
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05-02-2013, 08:06 PM
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The problem with the concept of god is it would have a tremendous ego to want to make itself known, worshipped, and obeyed. That instantly makes it foulable, demanding, and potentially cruel. In most religeons, this is the way man presents their creator. Fear of godly revenge is a huge motivator for humans to control other humans.
god is "just a dick" created by human d i c k s. <-- Yahoo forced me to put in spaces.
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