This Forum has been archived there is no more new posts or threads ... use this link to report any abusive content
==> Report abusive content in this page <==
Post Reply 
 
Thread Rating:
  • 0 Votes - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Who can answer this English grammar question about the difference between past perfect&past simple"?
05-27-2013, 10:04 AM
Post: #1
Who can answer this English grammar question about the difference between past perfect&past simple"?
Why is there a "had been" in this sentence - English grammar question.?
"I realized that social media would be transformational for businesses and decided to start a software company that would help Fortune 500 companies manage their marketing efforts using social media. Steve Garrity, who 【had been】 a computer lab partner of mine at Stanford, left his job at Microsoft to start that company, Hearsay Social, with me in 2009."
If I substitute "was" for "had been" then what's the meaning of the sentence and what's the difference between the sentence with "had been" and with "was"? Thanks in advance!
40 minutes ago - 4 days left to answer.
----------------------------
Answer given by SirGeorg:
"Had been" is past perfect, "was" is past simple.

Steve, who HAD BEEN my partner, LEFT.
...................far past.......................past

It's like "By the time I arrived(past simple) everyone had already left(past perfect)"
It shows a sequence of things, if you used past simple ("was") it would still make sense but that sequence of things would be lost, it would mean that while he was your partner at Stanford he left to start a company with you, whilst if you used past perfect("had been") it would mean that he firstly used to work at Stanford, and after his work there was over, he joined you to form another company.
-----------------
Additional Details
SirGeorg..., do you mean if I substitute "had been" for "was", it will be wrong because people who read the sentence will think that when he was my partner and at the same time working at Microsoft, he left school and at the same time left the job to start a company with me?
Please answer the question to SirGeorg above. Thanks in advance!

Ads

Find all posts by this user
Quote this message in a reply
05-27-2013, 10:09 AM
Post: #2
 
Who said anything about leaving school man?

Take the example I gave you before:
By the time I arrived(past simple), everyone else had left(past perfect)
^This sentence means that everyone left at 10:00 and I arrived at 10:15
So the verb in past perfect happened FIRST [:everybody had left]
And the verb in past simple happened SECOND [:then I arrived]

In YOUR sentence, if the time sequence is like
1.First you used to be partners at stanford
2.Then he got a job at Microsoft
3. After that he left that job to join you in a new company
By using past perfect you show that he used to be a partner of yours at Stanford, but then ceased to be one.
He then got a job at Microsoft.
And after that he quit to start with you a new company.

If the whole time sequence thing is too much for you, why don't you try re-writing that sentence into smaller sentences each one in a different tense?

Ads

Find all posts by this user
Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 


Forum Jump:


User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)