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Would this make me a libertarian?
10-12-2012, 03:09 PM
Post: #1
Would this make me a libertarian?
People ask me what my political views are, and I don't know how to answer, because I'm neither a liberal nor a conservative. I believe the current government is too corrupted to serve as an actual government, and that it should be overthrown (not that this is going to happen in our lifetimes) but I don't believe in anarchy either. If anything, it's the opposite. I think discrimination should not be eliminated because if it is, then we would all be uniform. I'm not talking about race or gender or religion or anything, but things like intelligence, personality, etc. We are evolving as a species and if we let the less intelligent reproduce more we will retrogade. Education, imo, is the foundation of a society. I don't place that much importance on individual freedom like a lot of libertarians seem to (i.e. anarchy would be a complete disaster, so would allowing everyone do whatever they want), but the advancement of our species (which the current state isn't doing much for, since they're keeping the public tamed intellectually through mass media).

But all of this is just hypothetical, and unrealistic, and impractical (a revolution in our current age? not going to happen). In our current society, I guess I would lean towards anarchism and the elimination of religion because that's the first step towards a new society/state, but that's not because I believe that extreme individual freedom or the lack of government is a good thing, but because the CURRENT one sucks. Would that make me a libertarian?

oh yeah and I do agree with liberals on some major social issues (abortion, equality in marriage, strict separation of church and state) but that's just because those are silly obvious issues that Christian republicans (and liberals too I guess) are trying to put at the forefront in order to take the focus away from the deeper ones. I think liberal values only work to relieve some of the damage caused by our state (health care, etc.), but aren't goodvalues/views in the long run.

tl;dr am I a libertarian or not? if not, is it okay to not agree with any of the major political parties, however unrealistic my views may be?


Thing is, there's a conflict between what I would want if I were an average citizen in society and what I would want if I were part of a
Actually, to the second guy, I don't think we should control who reproduces, but focus on educating the public, placing the educated in positions of power, and encouraging them to reproduce more instead of the other way around (which would be to stop people from reproducing). I don't support discrimination based on race, gender, or anything like that. But liberals talking about privileges and making everyone have the exact same opportunities, that eliminates the thing that brought us here in the first place: NATURAL SELECTION.

As for religion, I don't think we should persecute anyone or anything, just make religion a personal thing, effectively eliminating it and making it completely insignificant in all matters of importance.

So, no, I'm not a fascist.
@Brubru I agree, but I don't think it's coming in our lifetimes. Can't think of more than a handful of government systems that lasted more than 500 years. When the people in power stop being in touch with the values that the first people in power fought for, corruption happens. It's coming, but it'll be a while before it happens. Maybe in 150-200 years.

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10-12-2012, 03:17 PM
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Well, you are not a libertarian. You simply are like me, in between, which is always the logical thing to do.

However, you messed up saying there wouldn't be a revolution here. What makes you so sure about that? Is it the fact we haven't had one for a while?

Revolutions happened all the time, everywhere in the world. One is coming here very soon, when peoiple realize they are being robbed by the Fed and the banks. It's coming, I promise!

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10-12-2012, 03:17 PM
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Actually, talking about overthrowing the government, encouraging discrimination, controlling who can reproduce and elimination of religion makes your views more in-line of fascism than libertarian.
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