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Is this the same Paul Ryan that wants to Privatize Social Security ( Destroy) and Medicare?
10-13-2012, 12:45 AM
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Is this the same Paul Ryan that wants to Privatize Social Security ( Destroy) and Medicare?
Paul Ryan who wants to destroy Social security, medicare and medicaid is warning his own what will happen if the debt ceiling is not raised. He seems some how trying to save himself from his own bill.
He stated:

There are warnings of "credit markets in a state of panic," as the House Budget Committee chairman, Rep. Paul Ryan, put it, causing a sudden drop-off in the country's ability to borrow and pushing the government off a "credit cliff."

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10-13-2012, 12:53 AM
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Yeah...Government has done SUCH a good job with it, right, genius?

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10-13-2012, 12:53 AM
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It is the one and only. He is probably thinking about his super rich buddies and how much money they might lose
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10-13-2012, 12:53 AM
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Sure is . He is just new to the political propaganda arena . Bright guy , just dumber than a stick . A few more years in the culture of fear and he will be fine and can lie just like Gingrich and Perry ...
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10-13-2012, 12:53 AM
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False. Ryan wants to save Medicare. Doing nothing would ensure it falls on its own. Stop lying and find some facts to back up your animosity toward Rep. Ryan.
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10-13-2012, 12:53 AM
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Its the democrats that will destroy Medicare and Social Security by doing nothing .
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10-13-2012, 12:53 AM
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Ya gotta wonder what that guy's been smoking...cuz it ain't done him a bit of good!
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10-13-2012, 12:53 AM
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I'm kind of cynical about the GOP strategy these days. I think possibly the Ryan plan to privatize Medicare was not his own idea, that it came from some secretive backstage GOP committee and was given to Ryan to introduce as his own idea, as a trial balloon. Then, when it failed, other Republicans could disclaim it, and now Ryan himself seems to want to disown it.

The Republicans used to be The Party of Ideas. They weren't good ideas, usually, but at least they came up with ideas. These days they seem to be totally out of ideas. All they do is bash Obama, reflexively oppose anything he says or does or wants. They've made it clear that destroying Obama is their top priority, but after that all they can do is return us to the enormously failed policies of GW Bush.

The Ryan plan was to dismiss the accusation that they present no alternatives to Obama's ideas. They wanted to come up with an alternative to present, but they didn't want the Democrats to like it one little bit. Because if they came up with a plan that the Democrats liked, and it ended with a bipartisan compromise, the Democrats would get all the credit. So they came up with the Ryan plan, an idea so loathsome that Democrats would bash it--and then they could say 'Look, we put out our own ideas and the Dems wouldn't even talk about it!'

The Republicans see, as in 2008, that when the economy collapses under a president, the people vote for a change. So they want things to get worse--a lot worse! They want a bigger disaster under Obama than we had under Bush, so people will vote Republican for -change-. They only care about getting back into power, they don't care what damage they do to the country in the process. They call themselves Patriots, but clearly they put party above country. This is the reason they oppose anything Obama wants, even if its something they want themselves, and only present the most draconian alternatives.
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10-13-2012, 12:53 AM
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I know facts are tough for you libs to accept , but facts are facts ~ What you don`t know can make you look very very uninformed !! Dr. Obama and Dr. Pelosi to America’s Seniors: “Take $523.5 Billion in Medicare Cuts to fund Obamacare and Don’t Call Us in the Morning” ...... Friday, March 19, 2010

Having ignored the Medicare Actuaries’ warnings,
Democrats prescribe additional cuts to seniors’ safety-net program

The Senate Democrats’ health bill cuts Medicare by a whopping $463 billion to fund Obamacare .These cuts were so drastic that the Obama Administration’s own Medicare Actuaries predicted that “providers might end their participation in the program (possibly jeopardizing access to care for beneficiaries).” But President Obama and Congressional Democrats ignored this warning and pressed ahead with $60.5 billion in additional Medicare cuts in their “reconciliation bill” (H.R. 4872), bringing the grand total to a staggering $523.5 billion to fund a new entitlement.
Just because you libs are uninformed , doesn`t mean that these facts don`t exist ; because they do , and if you`re not to lazy , check em` out for yourself ? Just because you libs don`t want to believe the truth and admit you have been uninformed and wrong ; doesn`t make it false !! It`s true whether you believe it or not !
These cuts include:

•$202.3 billion in cuts to seniors’ Medicare health plans, including massive cuts targeting the extra benefits and reduced cost-sharing seniors receive through Medicare Advantage (MA). CBO had predicted a similar policy would rob 3 million seniors currently receiving their health benefits through Medicare plan, while the independent Medicare Payment Advisory Commission (MedPAC) predicted 1 in 5 seniors would no longer be able to enroll in MA as a result of this policy.

•$156.6 billion in cuts to inpatient and outpatient hospital services, inpatient rehabilitation facilities (IRFs), long-term care hospitals (LTCHs), inpatient psychiatric hospitals, skilled nursing facilities (SNFs), Ambulatory Surgical Centers (ASCs), hospice, ambulances, dialysis facilities, labs and durable medical equipment (DME) suppliers by permanently instituting a new “productivity adjustment” payment cut, which Democrats assume will make providers more efficient in delivering care. Inpatient and outpatient hospital services, inpatient rehabilitation facilities (IRFs), long-term care hospitals (LTCHs), inpatient psychiatric hospitals, hospice, labs and DME suppliers are further subject to years of additional cuts to their reimbursement rates through reduced “market basket updates”.

•$39.7 billion in cuts to home health reimbursements.

•$22.1 billion in additional cuts to hospitals by slashing reimbursements designed to assist hospitals that serve low-income patients.

•$20.7 billion in cuts to the Medicare Improvement Fund, which had been intended to fund improvements to seniors’ Medicare benefits, not to finance a new entitlement.

•$13.3 billion in yet-to-be-determined Medicare cuts from the hands of an unelected federal board.

•$2.3 billion in cuts to imaging reimbursements when seniors use MRIs, CT scans, etc.

•$800 million in cuts to power wheelchair suppliers.

•$65.7 billion in money taken from seniors in the form of higher premiums and additional cuts to Medicare beneficiaries and providers.
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10-13-2012, 12:53 AM
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a scare tactic. he's more concerned with pushing grannie off the cliff!
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