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Have you noticed that republicans are against all social programs until they need to use it themselves?
10-13-2012, 09:00 AM
Post: #11
 
yep, even Joe Miller's wife was all into unemployment compensation.Yes, what goes around, comes around. Republicans will meet Karma.

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10-13-2012, 09:00 AM
Post: #12
 
Amen ginger bread..
see cartoon..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEJ5Pq0ZYGA
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10-13-2012, 09:00 AM
Post: #13
 
Yeah, no kidding. Someone close to me wants all social programs to end, but not her SS or Medicare. Someone else I know just retired as of yesterday. He's worried about medical insurance now because he's only 59 and has to wait so long to get SS and Medicare, but -- all social programs need to be cut.

mhz wizo: It's understood that we've all paid into ss, medicare, and unemployment insurance. But the the Republicans as a group want all social programs ended and speak directly about ending SS and Medicare, and most recently refused to extend the benefit of unemployment insurance - the point then is that so many people vote against thier own best or stated benefit.

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10-13-2012, 09:00 AM
Post: #14
 
First off, both unemployment and social security are programs conservatives are forced to pay into and therefore use to recoup their money. Now I have never been on unemployment, so I can't say I refused to use, but I have been paying into unemployment and social security for 27 years now without receiving a dime back so far and may not the way things are going. Conservatives want to see people protected from economic disasters, especially due to illness, but anything the government runs is a disaster. Open your eyes, we are 14 trillion in debt, adding 100 billion a month to that pile. We need to change many things, using common sense to do so. The days of the government give aways is over.
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10-13-2012, 09:00 AM
Post: #15
 
with the exceptions of those programs that have collected money from those that use it. ie: social security and medicare. all of those that are drawing it have been paying into the system all of their life. Additionally Unemployment Insurance is paid just as any insurance is paid. -... ....
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10-13-2012, 09:00 AM
Post: #16
 
Anyone who pays a phone bill / cell bill, helps fund free cell phones for the 'poor'. This program costs us this year a projected ONE BILLION DOLLARS. Advocates say a cell phone is a 'right'. The free phone is up to 250 minutes a month, from SafeLink. You even get text messaging. Now, I do not know how this is a 'need' or a 'right'. If you receive any government assistance from heating assistance to welfare, you qualify. I am against many social programs because the programs tend to be just a redistribution of wealth. Now, if you placed restrictions on benefits to encourage people to work I would be 100% for the programs. We bring in 1 million migrants + families to pick crops, plus pay for their basic health care. Yet, we have millions unemployed. and many felons unable to find work. Couldn't the farm jobs go to the unemployed? Nope. The unemployed would lose benefits, and possibly would come out worse working. That is the problem. Government entitlements encourage staying home, searching for a 'job'. Working even part-time, which the job market is desperately needing workers, can spell financial ruin. Until regulations for benefits change, social programs are nothing more than wealth redistribution.
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10-13-2012, 09:00 AM
Post: #17
 
Unemployment benefits are paid by an insurance fund made of premiums paid by employers & employees. It's not a social program.

Social Security is the same. It is not a tax, but an insurance fund that pays benefits...the issue with SSI is people collecting benefits who have not paid the premiuims & the issue of Congress stealing the money from the beneficiaries (while telling us the fund is broke)...if they put the money back. If that happened in an insurance fund in the free market, the fund managers would be prosecuted for fraud.

Conservatives are not against a safety net...they are totally against the abuses that run rampant throughout these programs. I personally know of 2 such abuse cases, but they are legal...a family that has 2 children in medicaid & are making payments on a boat...another family with 2 kids on Medicaid that have a "time share" in Florida.

We have 'professional' welfare recipients...they do it their whole lives, their parents did it & their kids will to...because that's what they will learn...it's supposed to be a safety net for an emergency...not a way of life.
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10-13-2012, 09:00 AM
Post: #18
 
I am a conservative, but most certainly not a Republican (Republicans are way too liberal in my opinion).

I am by no means against social programs. It is the right of the states to have as many social programs as they feel are necessary. I am opposed to the Federalization of Social Programs because those programs go beyond the enumerated powers of the Federal Government.
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