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Liberals, if a Conservative President started stripping all social programs and?
10-14-2012, 01:52 AM
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Liberals, if a Conservative President started stripping all social programs and?
moving the country back to constitutional, free market capitalism would you want him/her to succeed or fail?

How is this different than Conservatives wanting Obama to fail in bringing the country further into Socialism?
This question was asked by zipadedodazipadea and I have reworded it some to see if it gets answers this time.

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10-14-2012, 02:00 AM
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What do you mean, if?

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10-14-2012, 02:00 AM
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we don't care, we just hate republicans
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10-14-2012, 02:00 AM
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I want him/her to succeed, of course.

I'm pragmatic about it. Whatever works. Free market capitalism seems to not work very well at equalizing wealth or at controlling shocks to the system. It seems to work great at other things.

Eitherway, I always want the U.S. economy to do better no matter who is in charge.
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10-14-2012, 02:00 AM
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I am a libertarian and don't think wasting taxpayer dollars as I think Obama's plan does is a good idea. That being said, I hope it does work for the betterment ofall involved, even though I don't think it will. I think that people who root for an opposing viewpoint to fail, are afraid to admit their way of doing something isn't the only way to succeed.
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10-14-2012, 02:00 AM
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I'm a conservative and if a Republican president started stripping away some of the wastefull social programs the deficit would be paid off and taxes would start going down. Does that answer your question?
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10-14-2012, 02:00 AM
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I could go with it if he stripped all the corporate welfare from the budget as well, enforcing the tax laws instead of allowing 2/3 of them to pay no taxes at all.

How would you deal with the millions of women and children suddenly without income? Does your church have that kind of budget? Or would you simply expect them to build tent cities like the one in Sacramento? Since unemployment is the highest in 26 years, how would you expect them to get a job? Are you willing to have the streets of our cities turn into Calcutta like it was before Mother Teresa, with the sick and dying lying on the sidewalks? As long as you can provide a plan to deal with all these things, I am willing to hope you succeed.
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10-14-2012, 02:00 AM
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have you ever noticed cons are completely blind to actual answers... they just ignore them? it's so funny...

his question was "why are liberals shocked"... your question is "if x happened"...

it's two different questions...

and of course we would say something...

the only liberals saying that cons shouldn't say something seem to be the ones just mocking cons from the past 8 years...
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10-14-2012, 02:00 AM
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You're correct.

I'm a liberal. I almost always disagree with Limbaugh, and I find his style to be irritating. But I didn't take offense at his statement about wanting Obama to fail. Clearly he meant that he wants Obama to fail at implementing his liberal agenda. He has a right to say that.

That being said, I think you'd admit that Limbaugh made his statement in a deliberately provocative manner. He wanted lots of publicity, and he certainly got it.
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10-14-2012, 02:00 AM
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I'd like any President to succeed.
Hes the one who makes the policy that leads the country.
If a president stripped all social programs and that worked, I'd say hey we got a guy in there who knew what he was doing.
But, if he stripped them, and we had the elderly going blind, and dying because they couldn't afford their heart medication, and women were giving birth in the streets and we once again fought polio because so many couldn't get vaccines due to the expense, the country wouldn't be doing so well at all now would it?
And if we ever had truly free market capitalism, there would go protectionism too. If all we look for is the cheapest, then who would be left to buy? All the money accumulates at the top, leaving 95% going without to service the wealthy, that didn't work too well for any society thats gone that way, eventually the masses get tired of pressing their noses to the glass watching the wealthy eat.
So the French aristocracy, and the Russian too lost their heads and their lives. If a society pays no attention to its workers, and just tries to strip them of their dignity and their wages they end in revolution.
So while I may hope a president with your policy would be successful, experience and history shows that its not successful at all.
I don't like all of Obama's ideas either, but if his ideas work, and we are successful, and the majority of people do well, I have no problem with that. As a country we can only benefit from a well run government.
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