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JW's, how much would you do to obey the November 15th Watchtower order?
02-19-2014, 01:25 PM
Post: #11
 
It doesn&#x27;t seem like you want to hear the truth.. U just want us to say &quot;yeah I&#x27;ll do it! I&#x27;ll blindly follow their orders&quot; ..

There will be a time when Jehovah&#x27;s Witness won&#x27;t go preaching.. That&#x27;s coming soon when the government takes on religion. And the elders will tell us the work is done.

There may be a time when we don&#x27;t speak to our relatives.. But that&#x27;s because they choose a lifestyle that doesn&#x27;t meet the high standards Jehovah has set in place.. And for us.. Our relationship with Jehovah is more important than anyone else&#x27;s.

If your point is just to argue and try to to make us look bad, to stop us from being who we are.. You already have failed.. Hitler, Stalin, and others have already tried and have only made the organization grow...

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02-19-2014, 01:33 PM
Post: #12
 
No matter what you say, Call Me Gary nailed it and you can't change it. Funny as I was going to post the same as Gary.
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02-19-2014, 01:39 PM
Post: #13
 
None of what you said sounds reasonable . If a person of authority like a police officer told me to do something that i felt was not right, i would not do it just because he wears a badge. Gods word says do not believe every inspired expression but test the inspired expression to see whether or not it is from God. CARIBBEAN MAN couldn't have said it better than this, from one of his other posts, " A Christian belongs to Christ". So It doesn't matter what any man says, If they told me to do something that i know gods word condemned, I WOULD NOT DO IT. That goes for anyone. I don't care if it was the President of the United States!!!

If the preacher @ your church wanted everyone to sit closer to the front so the ones that came in late could have the back row, so it wouldn't disturb anyone else, wouldn't YOU listen??? I'm sure YOU would listen. What kind of attitude would you be displaying if you did not listen?.. If he wanted YOU to swallow a pill, would You listen??? I'm sure you would not.. So you have to be reasonable. It sounds like you are on a witch hunt.

... You seem SO adamant on making JW's quit their religion. I'll tell you how to make a JW stop going to the KH. Here it is: Prove hell is a fiery place of torment; Prove God, Jesus, & the holy spirit are one; Prove that the soul is immortal; Prove that all good people go to heaven. That's enough for now.

Feel free to use any bible, google, any book from any Christian bookstore, any preacher at any church or on TV to help you. But that is the ONLY way a JW will leave. If you are "sincere" in your efforts, then you will do JUST that. Haven't you figured out by now that scare tactics and trickery doesn't work??? (Rhetorical)

But after that, you will have to tell them where to go to find there new found spiritual oasis.

Besides, If it doesn't matter what someone believes as long as they believe in Jesus, then leave JW's alone.

If it does matter what you believe and since all 41,000 different Christian Denominations believe different from each other and if you believe that we have to think like you then wouldn't that mean that you are brainwashed according to the haters definition and that you should be against all religions?

The fact that you are prejudiced ONLY against JW's, shows what your real motives/ intentions are.

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02-19-2014, 01:47 PM
Post: #14
 
This is truly terrifying.

I saw the twitter of a witness girl who said she "hoped she was brave enough to kill herself if they told her to." She said she'd "just pray to Jehovah and do it."

Jonestown happened without much warning back in 1979. We have much more warning here.

Beyond that, these are people who have been taught that their leadership is part of the fulfillment of end-time events. What would stop them from telling their people that they are part of the "heavenly forces" that bring about Armageddon? What would stop them from starting to go out and kill not just themselves but others???!!!

Now more than ever, I find these people dangerous and irrational.
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02-19-2014, 01:57 PM
Post: #15
 
I have moved on from being a JW. If my new church said something like this, I would leave immediately. JWs already do whatever they are told from the platform / WT publications. Shunning has been proven to be psychologically harmful to ones being shunned yet they still do it.
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02-19-2014, 02:04 PM
Post: #16
 
They won&#x27;t ask members to delete themselves via koolaid etc.

This reminds me of a desperate attempt to raise up atmosphere.. Heighten tension..gain attention.
Much like a partner, an immature hysterical one might say prove how much you love me.. By doing this..or i dare you to do that all in the name of love and loyalty

Its all a bit naff and embarrassing, a smoke screen, a deflection aimed at making themselves look interesting ..

Its a distraction from the fact that most of what they&#x27;ve said and prophesied has been a colossal flop.
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02-19-2014, 02:09 PM
Post: #17
 
"What would stop them from telling their people that they are part of the "heavenly forces" that bring about Armageddon? What would stop them from starting to go out and kill not just themselves but others???!!! "

have no fear of a truly peaceable and God fearing people......besides all the scriptural commands to stay neutral and to show love for fellow man, witnesses know to 'stand still and see the salvation of Jehovah...' 2 Chron 20:17
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02-19-2014, 02:12 PM
Post: #18
 
Jehovah's Witnesses will, in the majority, do ANYTHING that the Governing Body tells them to do through the literature.
Of course, later they may accuse the "Friends" of "running ahead" if it doesn't go right and will roll out some of their trademarked "New Light".
To those who rail against us for criticizing your religion know this; All we're doing is the exact same thing that you do when going door to door. You knock on peoples doors not only to bring them your supposed "Good News" but to bring down their current belief system. Don't try to deny it because you just make yourself look foolish.
@Caribbean Man and Grey Tower: Great answers!
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02-19-2014, 02:17 PM
Post: #19
 
All seven million of Jehovah's witness {give or take} must stay on track and obey the GB the FDS and the elders.

This idea of taking a pill regardless of it may not appear practical from a human standpoint is very real.

When the final moment come, truth to be told, take the red {truth} pill and go to heaven or don't take the pill, stay on the blue pill {confusion} and remain in hell.

Matthew 10 Christ Brings Division
34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’ He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.

The tricky part here is JWS do not believe in hell, they don't believe there is a God capable of punish, torture and torment a soul for eternity, they don't know that a soul is doing this to itself by not taking the pill they are offered at the end of days which is already here and in progress.

The Mayan Calendar 12 / 21 / 12 The End of The World.
Revelation 20: 10-11-12 The Great Withe Throne Judgment

Revelation = 10 = 1
Chapter 20 = 2 total 12

Texts 10-11 = 21

Text 12 = 12

Grand Total 12 / 21 / 12 The Mayan Calendar and the end of the world is a process and is already in progress. wake people, go and read what it says.

Revelation 20: The Great White Throne Judgment
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. 11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.

PS I am in possession of The Book of Life
Revelation 20:13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
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