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Maybe conservatives lost because people are sick of their Christian conservative social values?
11-19-2012, 02:22 AM
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Maybe conservatives lost because people are sick of their Christian conservative social values?
I know that the official line from the Republican party now is that Obama won because people want free stuff. And I'm sure there is some of that. But I think a bigger issue is that people are sick of the Christian right trying to embed their religion into the law with things like gay marriage and banning pornography and all the other crap they try to shove on people. They act like they are such moral people, meanwhile... there isn't a single war the United States ever started that they don't support.

Maybe people are just sick of that crap?

Personally I love the free market and capitalism. I'd love to have a party that supported those ideas and dropped the conservative social values.

BTW, I have nothing against Christian values. I just don't think the federal government should push them on people.
@Joseph B: You are entitled to your views. Go live your life according to them. Don't get the government to enforce those on others. (Also, I'm not a liberal.)
@Me Ne Frego: It isn't that bad so far. But there are a few things. If you were gay you couldn't get married. If they had their way if your wife was raped you couldn't get a legal abortion. They are attempting other restrictions. If they just dropped that line they'd be in the executive office right now.

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11-19-2012, 02:30 AM
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Sick of cons claiming that women, gays, & minorities are 2nd class citizens.

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11-19-2012, 02:30 AM
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yup but they are pseuso christian values not true christian values. The sin is getting caught
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11-19-2012, 02:30 AM
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It has become clear that you guys have the edge on bigotry...


....pity that "introspection" has fallen so out of favor amongst your tribe...
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11-19-2012, 02:30 AM
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I'm not a Christian, but I fail to see where they have imposed on me at all. I can be as debauched as I would ever want without breaking any laws.

This is hardly a country under the influence of their "values." Quite the opposite.
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11-19-2012, 02:30 AM
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we "lost" because most white male voters stayed home instead of voting!
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11-19-2012, 02:30 AM
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Hob. Sometimes people misunderstand something, and they want to say things that they don't understand. If you are truly a Christian then the Bible is your source of Values, and it does Condemn Homosexuals. And also Pornography is against their Biblical Values. If you don't like Christans just say so! Would you talk that way about Muslims? Or you trying to prove to your Liberal friends how bold you are? Either way it makes no sense condemning some people if you have you own opinion they can have theirs also. So what the Heck make you better?
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11-19-2012, 02:30 AM
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I do not want Muslim Laws pushed on me.......They are always trying to implement Sharia Law in many states rather than going by our Constitution.

Yep.......The American women who voted with there vagina's won't have a clitoris because they cut them off......hahahaha
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11-19-2012, 02:30 AM
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im so sick of them because its not just politics . you have something foul nasty and fundamentally wrong with you if you are a middle class or poor republican. your either racist stupid or evil to go along with what the right has been doing. they nearly destroyed the country and blamed it on obama, then these crazy cons act like they forgot about the housing fiasco and the longest war paid with no taxes for the first time ever. now the republicans have made a joke out of our system of government with their record breaking filibustering against anything put up in congress to turning people the healthcare bill would help against it ,claiming its unconstitutional when it was made up by a right wing think tank. wtf all the while they act proud to be stupid fools for the greedy rich. they are traitors to america.
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11-19-2012, 02:30 AM
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No one in this election (for instance) on the republican side even brought up abortion.. nor contraception.. The issue originally was Catholic institutions not wanting to be forced to provide abortion causing drugs, i.e. over riding "freedom of religion" and "conscience".. but this was spun as a "war on women". Most christians and republicans, since the 80's are not into legislating behavior choices.
- Shoved down throat? perhaps you are referring to how education has an enforced belief taught exclusively? an unproven hypothesis full of countless gaps and holes? Or perhaps it is all the movies, music, etc, that adheres strictly to all decency standards and laws? After all when the pornography war was won, one of the claims was no one would have to view indecency unless they chose to. Perhaps it's all those movies the right can watch with their children? I'd also like to point out that Roe v Wade was a usurping of "state's rights". And if most folks knew the procedures involved, they wouldn't be able to sleep at night (at least I would hope that would be the case).
- People are being taught and indoctrinated to hate the right. And before my eyes I plainly can see condescension turning into hate your guts hatred. (Which btw goes right along with bible prophecy of a last great and global genocide, against who? not pagans, not atheists..)
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