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Is there a secular reason to oppose gay marriage?
11-19-2012, 02:37 AM
Post: #11
 
Simply put, no. No logical reason exists that can oppose gay marriage other than 'appeal to tradition' arguments.

Well, limited government refers to keeping the government out of private lives, which can include the gay community, and give them the right to marry and join the military, for example, so it has much to do with it. Ironically, even though Republicans claim to support 'limited government,' clearly their ideology is *limited* only to fiscal economics, meaning they want the government limited...only to their money. "They're raising our taxes" cries cry as an opposition to big government. Their desire for limited government doesn't apply to social politics, considering how they use church and religion to control our privates lives, even in the bedroom. However, ironically again, the "free-market" harms developed society more than help it because less taxes drive the country into recessions, and the average person does NOT follow every aspect of the constitution. If they did, we'd have the right to marry centuries ago, and I literally mean centuries ago.

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11-19-2012, 02:37 AM
Post: #12
 
There are no repercussions to allowing gay marriage nationally as well as globally; the evidence is already here:
Check out the states and countries that have had gay marriage legalized for years now. Do you see the sky falling? Do you see a collapse in our government? (You mention the economical decline we're in and I'll hurt you)

Religion has no place in our governing laws, if it did we wouldn't have different religions in this country now would we?

Republicans for the most part are in favor of traditional values and are conservative in their political views. One of these political views is their stance on gay marriage, which obviously is not favorable.

As for the last part:
Free market is limited governmental power and constitutionalism is when the power is through the people that connects the limited government....think of it as the general population using the government as puppets, the people control what the government does.

So when it comes to the LGBT community, what this would imply is that the government is not to be involved and that the power of what is said and done in the LGBT community goes to the mass general public of this country. In other words, it wouldn't be good.
The rights that are being denied to the LGBT community are civil and should be handled by the government, but certain people (Republicans) want this vote to go by the public, not by the government. They know if this vote goes to the public (free-market, constitutionalism), it's likeliness of being favored is slim. So when the vote is done, it's pretty much a dead subject and very very difficult to repeal.

I hope I answered what you wanted out of it.
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11-19-2012, 02:37 AM
Post: #13
 
There really isn't. And supposedly were not suppose to make laws and crapp because religion. But seems like thats basically what were doing. :-(

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