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Do you support paying women the same wages for less work?
01-21-2013, 12:41 AM
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Do you support paying women the same wages for less work?
Having achieved legislation which guarantees the same pay for the same work (equal pay act of 63), feminists are now pushing the idea that when women enter naturally lower paying jobs, they should be paid as much as men in higher paying fields. In essence, they seek legislation guaranteeing them more pay for less work. This idea has been supported by feminists for some time as the idea of "equivalent worth", and in more recent fair pay act discussions as "equal but dissimilar work". - Again the idea being that a few key factor such as educational experience requirements or job training somehow magically make jobs "equivalent" even if what is accomplished on those jobs or the conditions are very dissimilar.

Not surprisingly, most labor economists are very against the idea, but feminist lobbyists love it.

What are your feelings and are you a feminist, MRA, equalist or other?
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Report to congress about the wage gap and equivalent pay idea here:

http://www.policyalmanac.org/economic/ar...equity.pdf

Shorter, easier to read evaluation here:

http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/...ble-worth/
Phantom Wolf - House work isn't employment, so it doesn't pay. I worked all weekend in my yard and didn't get paid a dime for it either. I fail to see the connection to employment.
Beer - Thanks for the details about Ireland. Under the fair pay act discussions here, it would allow a woman to sue by pointing to a male who earns more and claiming that must be due to discrimination, even though it's not the same job. That's the "equivalent" but dissimilar notion. The problem, in contrast to your Ireland example is that it is not based on equal productivity or profit for the company, but based on the idea, a few traits such as education requirement make the two jobs "equivalent".

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01-21-2013, 12:49 AM
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In my experience lower paid jobs are far more labor intensive

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01-21-2013, 12:49 AM
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Not a feminist but am female and no i don't support that. If she wants equal pay she better do equal work. Most women are fujucking lazy as hell
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01-21-2013, 12:49 AM
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actually housewife's get paid no wages for more work

exactly - housewife's work for no pay..................
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01-21-2013, 12:49 AM
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No.

I support equal pay for the same amount of work but also depending on experience.

To support same pay for less work would be to pay a phlebotomist the same rate that you would pay the lead Physician at the same clinic because of gender. That hardly seems reasonable to me.


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01-21-2013, 12:49 AM
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Personally, I would never hire someone who was moronic enough to believe in a wage gap......
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01-21-2013, 12:49 AM
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Not sure that's exactly the definition of "equal but dissimilar work"...maybe it is when it concerns US laws, idk. If I had to guess I would say they probably want more money just because they spent years obtaining a degree in one of the Social "sciences", a degree/knowledge that brings no worth to the employer. How convenient. Someone else should pay because your expertise is not valued on the job market.

The concept of "equal but dissimilar work" already exists in some countries, Ireland for example.
What the employee who's suing the employer has to prove is that his/her work brought as much worth/profit to the company as the work of someone else (in a different job position) who is paid more.
Very very hard to prove, of course; but if/when proven, I see nothing wrong with the concept.
Even if you do different jobs, if your overall contribution in terms of the end profits for the company is the same, it's only fair that you're paid the same.
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