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will USA slowly toward downfall?
05-07-2013, 10:11 AM
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Slowly? I doubt we could fall any faster if we chained weights to our legs.

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05-07-2013, 10:24 AM
Post: #12
 
USA is bouncing back. Look at Dow Jones Indexes, S & P above. 1500, Jobless claims at 2007 lows and soon likely FULL Employment !
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05-07-2013, 10:29 AM
Post: #13
 
Sad to say yes but we are. in 2 or 3 years time. and we gonna drag everyone with us when that happens. so good luck to all of us.

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05-07-2013, 10:40 AM
Post: #14
 
Not if we have a president who is neither Republican or Democratic for 2016.
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05-07-2013, 10:55 AM
Post: #15
 
The USA has been in "downfall" for a long time.

8/31/1910 Osawatomie, Kansas, Rep. president Teddy Roosevelt defines the progressive agenda: national health care, social security and the championing of unions (the vanguard of all "progressive" movements). TR said, “This, I know, implies a policy of a far more active governmental interference with social and economic conditions in this country than we have yet had, but I think WE HAVE GOT TO FACE THE FACT THAT SUCH AN INCREASE IN GOVERNMENT CONTROL IS NOW NECESSARY."

Dem. pres. Wilson (1913-21): “You are not here merely to make a living. YOU ARE HERE TO ENABLE THE WORLD TO LIVE MORE AMPLY..."

FDR’s “Second Bill of Rights” included the “right”: to “earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation”; of every family to a “decent home”; “to be free from economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment.” (Speech to Congress on 1/11/44)

LBJ’s Great Society spent trillions on those “rights.”

In fact, America’s semi-capitalist system provided those “rights” in such abundance that tens of millions of Europeans fled their welfare state nations to come here. But none of that matters to democrats. They will force us to accept their agenda:

Democrats dominate the major media:

How Americans saw the mainstream media (TV and print) election coverage in 2008:
-Rasmussen poll: 69% for Obama, 6% for McCain
-Pew Research poll: 67% for Obama, 11% for McCain
-Sacred Heart University poll: 68% for Obama, 9% for McCain
-Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll: 67% for Obama, 11% for McCain

U. of Cal. Department of Public Policy survey of journalists, nationwide: During the 2008 election 52% supported Obama, 19% McCain.

8/15/12 Rasmussen Poll: 59% of Likely U.S. Voters believe the media favored Obama, 18% Romney.

Number of Republican president candidates the New York Times endorsed since 1960? NONE.

The pro-democrat media has ten times more viewers than pro-Republican Fox News and democrats resent even that slight opposition to their dogma:
5/25/11 huffingtonpost.com: NBC Nightly News averaged 9.469 million viewers, ABC's World News 8.380 million; CBS Evening News 6.204 million; among cable networks, Fox News 2.556 million.

Democrats dominate the government K-12 “education” system:

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php… Top All-Time [political campaign] Donors, 1989-2012:
-The NEA (the biggest teachers’ union) gave $43,613,263: 71% to democrats, 5% to Republicans.
-The AFT (NY’s teachers’ union) gave $34,698,466: 86% to democrats, 0% to Republicans.

They dominate the universities:

3/29/05 Washington Post: “College faculties, long assumed to be a liberal bastion, lean further to the left than even the most conspiratorial conservatives might have imagined, a new study says.”
-72% of higher education teachers are liberal, 15% conservative
-50% identified themselves as democrat, 11% republican
-At elite schools: 87% are liberal, 13% conservative.

April 2012 report on American universities
http://www.nas.org/images/documents/A_Cr...tence.pdf: “In some areas it [liberal dominance] is so extreme that it amounts to virtual exclusion of any but left-of-center faculty members.”

5/20/12 L. A. Times: “At the University of California at Berkeley the ratio of Democrats to Republicans even in the hard sciences had grown to 10 to 1 in 2004, many times what it was 30 years ago...” “In the humanities and social sciences the ratios were 17 to 1 and 21 to 1, respectively.”

They dominate Hollywood, ipso facto -- no documentation required.

They dominate government unions:
10/21/10 Wall Street Journal: The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees is the biggest outside spender of the 2010 elections. It gave 0% to Republicans between 1989 and 2012.

The result of this pervasive, relentless dominance?

-2/4/10 Gallup poll: 61% of liberals have a positive view of socialism.

-6/2/11 Gallup poll: 71% of democrats favor re-distributing wealth.

-9/6-9/2012 http://www.gallup.com/poll/157481/majori: Those who want more government control over us: Republicans 15%; Independents, 29%; Democrats 67%.

-Now they have national health care, the foundation of all welfare and socialist states.

And soon Obama will appoint progressives to the Supreme Court.
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We are not longer a Republic, just as Ben Franklin predicted: "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."

We’re now a democracy, about which the Founders observed:

Thomas Jefferson: "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”

Ben Franklin: "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.”
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05-07-2013, 11:03 AM
Post: #16
 
yes, there is so many things messed up with america and we just keep going down hill! And voting Obama back into office was like running the titanic into another iceberg. A lot of bad things go on in america and it will fall.
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05-07-2013, 11:10 AM
Post: #17
 
Sadly for decade's we tried to be like Europe, not realizing, how socialism, has dissolved the effective freedom's of Europe.
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