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Is Omar Abdullah correct in questioning the TN Assembly Resolution on Rajiv Gandhi Killers?
11-19-2012, 02:12 AM
Post: #11
 
Intention behind the action is very important before one decide on such matters...I think..If Intention of afjal guru was to attack Indian values/principals...than omar is 100% wrong....If afjal intention and anger was against corrupt and double standard politicians than he is right.BUT omar intention seems to be to just save his Chair and get unjustified support from a section of people,inthat case he is wrong.

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11-19-2012, 02:12 AM
Post: #12
 
yes i think he done correct.
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11-19-2012, 02:12 AM
Post: #13
 
First, we cannot agree with the resolution passed in TN Assembly. I feel ashamed that there are such fools in my state, who could fight for such a cause. Protesting and fasting for the criminals who killed a PM, nad 18 other men.

As a CM, Omar should not have talked like this. Bcos, this resolution in TN totally relates to a CRIME CONDUCTED IN TN, which has been enquired by TN court.

BUT THIS AFSAL CASE, THE CRIME HAPPENED IN DELHI. HE HAS NO CONNECTION TO OMAR, OTHER THAN HE IS A KASHMIRI MUSLIM. OMAR CANNOT INTERFERE IN THIS.

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11-19-2012, 02:12 AM
Post: #14
 
Yes, absolutely, Omar is 500 % correct. He has the right to say that. He knows well that Afzal is innocent, falsely implicated in the case by NDA(mostly BJP) communal govt. This case is no match to Rajiv killers' case who are real culprits & this man is not so. Afzal was booked under draconian act POTA. A person in Indian police custody, tortured mercilessly & threatened worst can not give correct statement freely. Indian courts' standard was substantiated well recently(read Godhra case's two contradictions & Best Bakery Case). Parliament attack was an orchestrated drama planned by BJP to take maximum leverage from USA after 9/11 & enable USA army to attack Pakistan. To create that frenzy, that was orchestrated & to get POTA easily passed to be misused against Muslims as TADA was done in 90s after 1993 Mumbai bomb blasts in which 70,000 Muslims of Mumbai were arbitrarily arrested & only a few could be proved guilty having no evidence at all but tortured during custody mercilessly, completely spoiling their future lives. That was real India of 90s. None of the attackers was caught alive to tell the correct story. ZEE TV showed the video footage of the first bomb blast before the parliamentary attack before their gun shots, having fumes of much less amounts than the same of a small ordinary cracker, leaving not even a small crator . After that TV channel took a U turn talking pro-BJP from anti-BJP & habitaully Muslim basher. Under POTA, a statement after torture in custody, is an evidence, murder of justice. Afzal was not allowed to hire a lawyer of his choice. Had he been allowed to hire Jethmalani, he would have been freed long ago. He was not given fair trial was remarked by Abdul Kalam too. All POTA judges were of RSS mentality, appointed by BJP ministry, all deadly anti-Muslims. POTA court gave judgements in very much hurry with the clear communal mindset. If you visit personally Sopore, Afzal's native town, no neighbour can even think that he can ever do any terrorism, being a very calm, quiet, pious & a very brilliant former medical student. Muslim intellectuals are being selectively targeted 7 liquidated by Indian agencies from the very beginning. His case is a parallel case in Britain in the past in which after being declared cuprit & punishable, some fresh evidences got exposed & proved his innocence, British Govt pardoned him.
Recently, Shanti Bhushan released a long list ot top supreme court judges being corrupt & manipulative selling judgements. Chief Justices Ramswamy, Venkatachalaiah & A S Anand were the worst. None has credibility like justice(retd.) V M tarkunde.
Before India's partition, after 2nd World War, some men of INA of Netaji Subhash Babu were arrested & four Hindus of them, who commited gruesome murders of British soldiers were represented by Gandhi, Nehru & Asaf Ali & were freed but four such Muslims, who were only charged for attempt to murder, represented by Muslim League legal experts were all awarded death sentences. In the next Indian parliamentary session, Jinnah delivered a five hour long speech full of legal arguments saying at the end as : In my 50 year life span of legal practice, both attempt to murder & murder are considered same thing legally but this is the unique case of such a wrong judgement. After the session, the the death sentences were cancelled & they were freed. That case left telling repurcussions in Muslim community in India compelling them to think that when British Empire was still there, wrong judgements by Indian judges are passed out of communal hatred, what would happen to them in future after its departure. Muslim press made a lot of hue & cry. That strengthened the partition demand. Afzal's hanging will not only put Indian(illegally) held part of Kashmir boiling again, it may incite heavy bloodshed throughout the nation once again. India has to think again & again possible losses of large number of precious human lives b coz of Afzal Guru & its long term consequences. By calling massive 1.2 million Indian rogue(most communal & fascist) troops in a small are Kashmir(20 mile x 80mile) since 21 st January, 1990, former governor Jagmonhan(butchar of Muslims in Delhi in emergency & Kashmir later), the after effects of which in the subcontinent is still visible. That will put the clock back again & frenzy will multiply much beyond expectations, say expert political analysts.
Rajender Sachar's Report in India presented long ago is not being implemented.
Justice Sri Krishna Commission's reports are not being implemented at all even after 16 years punishing Balasaheb Keshav Thackeray,Manohar Joshi, Shiv Sena, BJP, VHP & others.
Narendra Modi is not being punished at all.
And every communal fascist is too much interested in hanging Afzal Guru but not about above matters, why ? This shows highly communalIndian psyche India has.
Stories of fights. fights & fights in Ramayana & Mahabharatha teach terrorism.
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11-19-2012, 02:12 AM
Post: #15
 
I don't have anything to say after Mr. Veers Answer, I rarely do this but you have my best answer award however questioner has his right to select as per his wisdom and no doubts on his wisdom.

To my reading of your answer:

1. Death penalty should be abolished, and you have give some reasons for that, I had given few more reasons for the same in my another answer.

2. An elected government or an constitutional body passing resolution to grant mercy for the accused convicted by highest court does not give good picture of our system. This could only be because of political reasons.

3. There cannot be two yardsticks for two different cases, if it is Sri Perambadoor massacre, then it can be for Bhooler case, Guru Case or any other case, and this will become a ugly tradition interfering in our legal process.

4. This is from me, death penalty is legal process but mercy is political process. We must have regulations that limits the time for decision on mercy petition, and though it is president's decision, there should be some way to challenge it. This is big decision for someone and that cannot be unaccounted.
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11-19-2012, 02:12 AM
Post: #16
 
Dilli, Veers Tamil and Flute have give detailed responses. To confine to ur question,Omar's question is not about capital punishment, delay in deciding mercy petition or the rights or wrongs of the acts committed by the convicted persons but about the propriety of the state legislature passing a resolution and the higher ups acting on it; if the reaction will be the same if the JK assembly also passes a similar resolution.The questions to be considered are:
1. After the Supreme Court (SC) decision and President's rejection of the mercy petition, is it right for the state legislature to pass such a resolution;
2. Is it right on the part of the High Court (HC) to admit the petition.
3. Can the HC reverse the order of the SC, according to the existing judicial set up?
4. If the resolution is finally approved by the HC, will the matter again go to SC for review?
5. If SC again rejects what is the situation;
6. If the Govt. chooses to act on a positive decision y the HC, will it apply to all state legislatures,as an order of a HC , until reviewed by another HC or will be restricted to only the specific Tamil Nadu application
Omar's question is not about the correctness of the killings in Sriperumbudur or the attack on the Parliament. Both are heinous crimes and need to be treated as such and punished. The question is limited to acceptance of a similar resolution by the JK assembly, if is ok in TN.
I think the question needs an answer from the Govt. For records, I am not a member of any political party.
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